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Last night featured some goodbyes: https://therealljidol.dreamwidth.org/1020916.html

and a Hello to a new topic: https://therealljidol.dreamwidth.org/1020951.html

It also had Golden Ticket byes becoming available: https://therealljidol.dreamwidth.org/1020455.html

and the usual offer to discuss how people did in the "email poll". (see the goodbye post)

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People seem to enjoy data, so I have a little bit for you. Maybe more later.

- "Email me your votes" should, in theory, have the same amount of votes as "click here". After all, ANYONE can vote. It's not like it's a restricted, contestant only, poll. But actually it's usually less. In this case, just over half as many people responded to the email request as do the "click here". It's also not the same people. There were definitely some familiar names. But across the board, in every category (including active contestants), the numbers were down. I'd say that's been true of a good 75% of the times that I've ran this type of poll. People are willing to sign up for a website and click a box - but aren't as willing to send an email. It's less work (for those not already on that site) but some folks just aren't willing to do it.


- There were 4 contestants who broke out of their "usual standing" in the polls, in a positive way, with vote totals spiking up a significant amount.

- There were 2 contestants who I thought were "out" about halfway through. One of them ended up having a mid-poll rally where nearly every single ballot that came in the second half had their name on it. The other had their name show up on the *last 2 ballots* received, and was saved by a single vote.

Both of those examples, to me, say - keep putting yourself out there, and never give up hope. Because your fate can change, if you work hard enough to help it along.

There were definitely a handful of stand-outs, people who did really well. But some of them are in that "improved in a significant way" category with the voters, and some usually do well. That said - I think Second Chance could very well play a huge part in what our Top 10 is going to look like. I predict a few major shakeups before the end of this. (Not even knowing who is coming - just knowing how the Top 15 to about Top 6 or so usually goes.) There are always a few unexpected stumbles/bye-outs and just weeks that go absolutely wrong... it's a short mini season, but a long road ahead of us game wise.

Date: 2018-12-13 08:29 pm (UTC)
murielle: Me (Default)
From: [personal profile] murielle
And I shouldn't like polls,because I am addicted to checking them. Why? Because I am so freeeeking insecure, and I am convinced that I'm going home every single week. And no matter how well it looks on the polls until Gary posts the outcome and I don't see my name on it I am a pain in my own neck.

I have heard about the cliques. I didn't realize the extent of their machinations (sorry, it's my favorite word right now). And that's sad. But as Gary has pointed out many times this used to be a very different game.

I'm like you. I'd rather be about the supporting and cheering than the actual voting. It's what I love about the Idol experience. But I get that it's a big part of the game.

And I SO don't think what you've written here will affect your votes because it won't affect your writing and your writing is so good. *Hugs* <3

Date: 2018-12-13 08:47 pm (UTC)
murielle: Me (Default)
From: [personal profile] murielle
I was just thinking that, Gary!

Y'all are getting older! LOL!

You're right each group does create its own game. And that is the way it should be.

Date: 2018-12-13 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bsgsix
I've noticed this group on DW seems more supportive and less clique-like, unless I've not been paying attention. I think people work to comment and bring their best, and to lift others up, and honestly, I LIKE that. There's competition, but I don't think it's an awful society over here. It's different, and different isn't bad. So for now, I'm a fan. :) (And I'll probably remain one!)

Date: 2018-12-13 09:20 pm (UTC)
murielle: Me (Default)
From: [personal profile] murielle
I'm totally biased, of course, but I completely agree with you. This is a very special group this year. There's a lot of love at the table, and you are one of the people making it so. :-)

Date: 2018-12-13 10:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bsgsix
I think this is a wonderful group of writers and, even more importantly, people (or Cylons, as some of us may be...). ;) I like things here on DW and wish they could stay that way, but all seasons will differ, of course.

And thank you! All of your kind comments (and the fact you comment so much to everyone) wins you some "nicest person here" award, I swear. I always think that because you always comment, and your dedication is amazing. <3

Date: 2018-12-13 11:23 pm (UTC)
murielle: Me (Default)
From: [personal profile] murielle
You're a sweetheart!...[personal profile] rayaso won that honor last full season. Deservedly so!

Date: 2018-12-13 11:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bsgsix
Thanks! And I wasn't around last season, but I truly believe it! :)

Date: 2018-12-13 09:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bsgsix
I think it's okay to like what you like. And we all have our insecurities. Checking the poll makes ME insecure, like I'm cursing it, so I just don't do it (unless I'm voting!) until right before it closes! I may go in to add a vote if something struck me and I hadn't voted on it yet, but I try to vote all at once and be done with it.

Cliques existed, but I don't see it as much here. I see more support here, and I like that a lot. I like supporting fellow writers - those new to the craft and those who could write myriad novels and have them published - and telling my story to the world. That's the game I'm here to play: to write, to read, to encourage, and to support. And to tell my truth, from dark to inspirational to awful to wonderful.

And thanks. I was mostly just kidding (though "get rid of polls!" really IS an unpopular opinion and I acknowledge that!), but those are kind words, and I greatly appreciate them. I'm glad you feel that way about my writing - that means a lot! Thank you! *hugs* <3

Date: 2018-12-13 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dmousey
You and I both Murielle! I'm insecure around the caliber of writer Idol attracts. I struggle because of not going to school beyond eleventh grade. The polls freak me out -OCD. Now however, in general it has become a kinder gentler Idol. People ARE more supportive. I do like that.

*and I remember when it was clique-y.

Date: 2018-12-13 11:19 pm (UTC)
murielle: Me (Default)
From: [personal profile] murielle
*Hugs*

A wonderful education is a gift, but not one that all of us get. The marvelous thing is we can educate ourselves by reading and learning every day. You are a fantastic writer. I know this--remember our intersection thingy? You've got nothing to worry about. Trust me. :-)

Date: 2018-12-13 11:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dmousey
**hugs back** I absolutely do remember it (Our Intersection)! And yes, I received a technical schooling instead and gained a career that allowed me to raise my brats.

I always stressed reading to my kids for the very reason, that if you can read, you can do anything. 😊💜✌
🙏

Date: 2018-12-14 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] megatronix
It's interesting reading all this. I've been in Idol a few separate times, and have completely lost track of when!! I'm going to have to go look that up. My first season I was petrified of screwing things up and felt out of place because I didn't feel sure that I understood the process, and was very intimidated by the writers. But then I realized it wasn't as hard as it felt, and suddenly I just felt in place here. I guess week after week of people enjoying my writing didn't hurt the evolution of that process one bit! ;)

All that is to say that I am one of the more late-comers relatively speaking, and I don't remember cliquish-ness, which I'm glad about!

And I also really love when groups are so supportive, bonding with other writers, and reading such great material week after week. Having Idol be back right now is a really enjoyable part of life at the moment, like when it started up, it felt like a reunion, or something, even if many of the folks were new to me. It was just cool having this familiar wonderful hub again to meet back at, I guess is the best way I can think to describe it right now.

Long story short, kinder gentler supportive Idol is what I've known and cherished, and know, and cherish now, too! :) I feel very fortunate to be able to participate, for sure!

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