Home Game/Killing Floor - Week 30
Dec. 2nd, 2014 10:12 pmIf you've already read the Topic post http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/811500.html, you know what to do here. :)
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For those *not currently a contestant in the competition* who want to participate though, you can post anything you like. :) A previously written piece, or one based on the topic "Critical Hit"!
The deadline is the same as the topic Monday, Dec 8th at 8pm EST
Have fun!
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For those *not currently a contestant in the competition* who want to participate though, you can post anything you like. :) A previously written piece, or one based on the topic "Critical Hit"!
The deadline is the same as the topic Monday, Dec 8th at 8pm EST
Have fun!
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Date: 2014-12-03 04:23 am (UTC)Please and thank you! :)
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Date: 2014-12-03 09:39 pm (UTC)I always wondered if the Second Person POV was the best choice (and I always wonder this, even with my own stuff) -- it's such a underutilized POV, and you use it well, here.
Another thing I wonder about is the explanation of the ability to Shift -- where it came from and all that. While definitely a fascinating piece of information, the story might be better served without a large chunk of the background info. We don't even need to know that Reading an animal for the first time results in its death -- you've shown that in the first section.
And even then, that background info is still told in such a compelling way, it doesn't detract from the story. It just might be tighter without it.
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Date: 2014-12-03 04:38 pm (UTC)http://witches.livejournal.com/135843.html
thanks in advance!
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Date: 2014-12-03 09:50 pm (UTC)I love that the mermaids are likened to sharks; it gives a much more eerie feel to the sailor's inevitable death as they drag him down into the deep. I wonder if you could allude to this comparison earlier on? Like by describing her tail or something as more sharklike than your average fish. :)
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Date: 2014-12-03 07:04 pm (UTC)http://swirlsofblue.livejournal.com/24316.html
Thank you :)
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Date: 2014-12-03 10:02 pm (UTC)The movement from section to section is well done. I am intrigued by the world you set up -- where people are allowed to "declare" their professions, and whether those declarations are accepted or not. I like that she's allowed to keep her coveted position as writer.
I love, love, love the end, where her purpose within her government is revealed. Christ, that has to hit hard.
Things I'd focus on in terms of crit is just tightening the prose and the sections some. I don't know if the second declaration is necessary, for example. You could skip straight to the years passing by and her work growing more and more popular amongst the people. I do like that she gains a greater sense of her own purpose as how SHE'D define it in these sections, as well. It makes that final reveal hit that much harder. :)
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Date: 2014-12-03 09:57 pm (UTC)Thanks so much!
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Date: 2014-12-03 10:22 pm (UTC)I love the dialogue in this. It's interesting, seeing a Devil who is just about as all-knowing as God Himself. I like that he was buttdialed -- I like that he CAME to the "rescue." I love the implication of a FWB type of thing.
My biggest thing is that I want to know WHY the girl needs the Devil to come to her rescue -- and why so often? What is she doing with her life that she needs the Devil to rescue her and come in and "clean up the mess," as he put it? I would have loved details interspersed throughout the story; hints towards what was really happening.
Though the fact that the Devil put his name in the speed dial -- that he COULD be buttdialed, in the first place? Priceless. :)
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Date: 2014-12-04 03:33 pm (UTC)Thanks. :)
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Date: 2014-12-04 05:15 pm (UTC)You keep the pace up and that keeps the piece moving along quickly.
Without knowing if you want to see this as a complete piece of writing it's a bit difficult to "critique" it. Can something be too descriptive? Occasionally.
On a sentence level edit you might find some descriptors that could be removed entirely or massaged. In the very first sentence, "single shoulder" could be edited to "shoulder" for example. Sometimes, in an attempt to clearly paint a visual picture we can get bogged down with detail that isn't necessary but if included then brings expectation for every move, colour, smell, sound to be identified and that becomes exhausting.
On a more thematic level, the idea of a "natural born" liberation and elimination issue is intriguing. For me, that's more of the focus than the fact that he's ginger.
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Date: 2014-12-05 01:25 am (UTC)(The original entry was a paltry 670 words; the rewrite is about 900 words). Thanks!
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Date: 2014-12-05 07:14 am (UTC)I like this, actually, quite a bit—the setup is cute, even if occasionally the puns are a little over the top (I think where I lost it was when he "dogged" her steps :P ), and while you're trying to straddle the description of a human male that also fits a dog, it doesn't always quite make it. Those are things that could be easily polished away—more careful word-choice, or deciding to use different descriptors, thinking about how you would describe a person versus a dog and what works for one, um, species but not the other. I honestly think that those things are things that were passed over in the first draft mostly because this is something for Idol and, well, you don't get a lot of time to polish—you've added some to it now, but there's still subtle things that could use improvement. Looking for a wedding-ring, for instance, on the dog's paw—that doesn't quite work, and it's a detail I'd think about leaving out, or changing somehow. You'd look for a wedding-band on a man, a collar on a dog—so you need to be coy about it. "I didn't see anything that marked him as belonging to another", maybe, or something that makes it clear—she's not preying on a married man (or an owned dog), but doesn't make it clear that it's not someone human she's talking about. That's the only real issue I have with the piece and something that I think could potentially improve it. :)
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Date: 2014-12-05 04:39 am (UTC)This was my week 1 entry from LCI (yes, I have quit THREE TIMES this season):
http://n3m3sis43.livejournal.com/115155.html
Be brutal. I enjoyed writing this piece and was more satisfied with it than most of my Idol offerings this season, but it's not one of my babies and I won't cry if you hit me too hard. xD
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Date: 2014-12-05 07:51 am (UTC)As a piece of flash fiction this is pretty great as-is. There's always the usual complaint of "this could be tighter if..." with respect to word-choice and whatnot, but the pacing is good, as are your descriptions, the plot is tight, and while we don't get a ton of worldbuilding, we don't really need it, either—this isn't about the thoughts/feelings of the plant; we don't need to know its motivations beyond that it wants to feed—we're fine, there.
It's the scene where they come into the garden where things fall apart a bit, at least for me. Specifically, while I'm all for the idea of Audrey II eating these guys, that she would leave another just sitting off to the side makes me raise an eyebrow. The motivations for that aren't quite clear—we get a one-off sentence about how she's going to "leave it for the wildflowers", and that's it—but she knows that something is different about this one, and since she is an apex predator, I'm wondering why she doesn't hit different = dangerous. I'm curious, then, as to why she lets her guard down and tries to extend friendship toward him. There's a disconnect, there—is she lonely, or...? That's what we really need to know the sell the end of this: why would she suddenly decide to trust what is essentially a prey animal behaving weirdly? She notes that it hasn't tried to flee—a bad sign—and she decides to extend friendship toward it anyway? It doesn't quite it. I'd argue that there needs to be something more, there—if she decides that she's going to "charm" it into staying, we need to see that; if it's that she's a bit lonely and wants to toy with it before the wildflowers eat it (as I'm assuming that's what she meant by giving it to them), we need to see that, too. The piece before that point is really tight—so, give us those motivation—slot that last bit of the puzzle into place so that we can see more clearly what's going on.
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Date: 2014-12-05 06:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-05 07:17 pm (UTC)I think my biggest complaint about this would have to be that it is very, very dialog heavy. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's very short, and clearly the end of something else—the final dialog, with the villain twirling his mustache and going, "aha!" could be good—I'm just not sure that I'm sold on it working here. This feels like the end to a much longer piece, and because we're not getting the context that we need to make the plot and whatnot work on their own, most of our exposition is coming through dialog.
My suggestion, then, would be to lengthen it just a bit. You're under a thousand words right now—that's fairly short! You have room to work with! Give us more of the story, before we get to the very end of things, so that we see the action unfold, versus being told about it through the dialog. Right now it's more "screenplay" than "short story", and I'd love to see that flipped.
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Date: 2014-12-05 07:36 am (UTC)I also welcome commentary through e-mail or PM.
Thanks. :D
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Date: 2014-12-07 10:40 pm (UTC)“I guess I was just in the right place at the right time.”
I'm curious as to where she was or what she was doing when she met the Fey, but otherwise I can't think of anything else to comment on.
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Date: 2014-12-05 08:31 am (UTC)Because I feel like being somewhat ... obtuse, I'm going to link this thing (http://icaruslived.livejournal.com/5475.html).
I'd appreciate any and all feedback that can be provided :)
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Date: 2014-12-05 07:40 pm (UTC)I'm not really sure what you're looking for, in terms of feedback, about this. As a piece of IF it works very well. The different choices are very clever; it's difficult to find fault in any of the things that you have written as scenarios.
The only suggestions I might make are more specific to writing a story than they are to IF, and honestly, I'm not sure that they're changes that necessarily need to be made at all. Specifically: there isn't a lot of characterization of the different sinners. They all bleed together after a certain point, and while it's fine here, it does make things fall a little flat, and it can be hard to distinguish one set of characters from another, one set of sinners from another set.
Additionally, we get a lot of telling-not-showing—but, again, it works, at least for this. There's a lot of exposition to be crammed into a very small space—there's not really a lot that you can do to avoid that trap, unless you want to make the pieces of the game longer (and I don't think that you necessarily do).
Ultimately, I think it works. What I've listed above are things to keep in mind if you tackle a project like this again, but I don't think they're necessarily things that you have to worry about fixing here.
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Date: 2014-12-06 04:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-06 10:49 pm (UTC)there's a light on, in chicago, and i know i should be home (http://sobota.livejournal.com/460193.html)
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Date: 2014-12-08 08:14 pm (UTC)I think the main way this piece could be strengthened is just for there to be more of it. I'd like to get even more of a sense of the narrator, and the choices that led to these different 4 am situations. Expand each section a little and let them breathe - give us more than a sentence or two in each space.
That very first shift, from Vegas to London, was kind of jarring for me. I don't think there's much you can do to ease that transition in that paragraph, because you've got that lovely repetitive structure that's just getting established there, but maybe a little something at the end of the first paragraph would make it flow better? You might want to consider a simple formatting trick, actually - put a little separator between each section, so the reader knows something totally different is happening next. *** or ~~~ or whatever.
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Date: 2014-12-07 01:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-12-07 10:25 am (UTC)...this is actually my third favourite, as my favourite-favourite has been bought and published elsewhere, and my second favourite is under review and can't be public.
Sorry :/
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Date: 2014-12-07 06:30 pm (UTC)Also, right off the bat I want to "see" the chicken salad in a container of some sort. I just am not seeing that and it's pulling me out of the flow of the story. Especially as you come back around to it in the final lines....why has it gone off? Where did he procure it?
Lastly, I'm left wondering about the purpose and point of this small slice of domestic life. Not to say that all flash fiction needs a point....but the overall upbeat nature of this piece of writing should probably have more purpose lest it read as sentimental.
You are a great technician and your writing always is a pleasure to read!
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Date: 2014-12-07 07:11 pm (UTC)Thank you!
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Date: 2014-12-08 08:39 pm (UTC)My two main comments are editorial in nature:
You wrote: “I tore the room apart until I find a syringe, and then I injected the Lazaryl into her heart." --This should be "until I found a syringe..."
And this section here flows oddly to me:
Our own mother would have died last month, when her appendix burst and toxins spread all through her, but the doctors were able to revive her. --For me, it would sound better if it was "My own mother..." I know she is the mom of two grown kids, but only one person is telling the story, so using "Our own mother" just sounds off to my ear. I hope that makes sense!
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Date: 2014-12-07 08:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-08 10:33 pm (UTC)We found her tied up in the attic. --This phraseology made me think she was tied to a chair, or just bound and gagged, rather than hanging from a noose. It took another sentence or two before I got the gist of what you'd meant.
He jerked his chin and I was waived on. This should be "waved". A waiver is something completely different. :)
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Date: 2014-12-08 12:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-08 07:54 pm (UTC)I fear maybe you missed the point?
I like the idea of introducing an element of randomness into your choice of what piece to post this week. I did a bit of die rolling myself to narrow down my options. But just taking a video of the d20 rolling and posting it here shows a real lack of effort, and a lack of engagement, and a lack of understanding about what this particular space is meant to be for.
There's nothing here for me or anyone else to give feedback on, or to give a real critique of - well, other than the lack of substance, which I suppose I'm engaging with critically? The video isn't long enough that I can even comment on its quality. If this was merely meant to be a placeholder while you write something else for this week, that's cool, but I have to say I'm not really feeling this, and I think you might want to come up with something else before the deadline hits.
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Date: 2014-12-08 02:50 am (UTC)I was really pleased with this piece at the time, and I would not mind receiving some rough, tough concrit. Thank you!
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Date: 2014-12-08 03:52 am (UTC)I was a knife that had led itself to believe it was something more.
Since this is followed by him drawing his dagger to attempt the assassination, perhaps a change from "knife" to "dagger" in the above? (I know, I'm weird and like things parallel like that. But it was the one thing that really jumped out.)
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Date: 2014-12-08 02:56 am (UTC)It's kind of far out of my usual comfort zone on multiple levels, but it wouldn't leave me alone until I wrote it.
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Date: 2014-12-08 11:53 pm (UTC)Oh. This is a really good piece, and I'm sad that it's based in truth. I did wonder a little if CZ was going to turn out to be an ice demon or something.
I did find it a little confusing that it was a rugby game when you'd been talking about ice hockey (I presume) the whole way through, and that made me go back and re-read. Maybe if you said something like
"He knew what they had said about him, after...well, after - that he was too hot-headed, that he was too cold-blooded - and somehow being in the rink was the way to resolve them both. It was different enough that it felt safe."
I don't know if I have explained myself well, sorry. Home sick :(
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Date: 2014-12-08 03:53 am (UTC)Re: Devil's Gauntlet
Date: 2014-12-08 11:58 pm (UTC)...got the list of what's missing, Harry." (comma, lose "item")
par-boiled (you have "par- boiled")
"It's price tag is astronomical." should be "Its"
"Art was history and beauty fused, in his eyes." (comma)
"break in" should be "break-in"
"They were a good partnership, Harry Duran was even less inclined to speak than Pete, but wore better clothes." (first comma should be semi-colon or full-stop)
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Date: 2014-12-08 05:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-08 07:01 pm (UTC)My main problem with this story, though, is that it isn't a story. (And what I mean by that is that there's no action or plot). It's almost a vignette (and what I mean by that (I'm overexplaining, because these terms get thrown around a lot but not necessarily defined, and I might be using them differently than expected. Where was I? Oh yes, what I mean by vignette..) is a scene or episode which suggests larger context. Vignettes usually have extremely strong character elements, strong setting elements, and little to no plot), but mostly it's just an exploration of a character's internal state and emotions. I feel like it needs some more grounding to help the reader know these characters as well as you clearly do, and care about them, we need a little bit more of an in to where they are now, not just emotionally but physically.
In the beginning of the piece, you've got it set in a location - "He and Conrad are both fifty-two, newly-minted American citizens living in Milwaukee, when they see it on television as part of a twenty-fifth anniversary special that they have already half-missed." And then you reference the couple living next door much later. But most of the piece is pure emotion and internal state, and so it feels white-roomed. I'd really love to see more of their apartment, have this grounded much more firmly in that moment. Show me Oskar's rapt attention on the television while Conrad seems sad and gets up to go to the kitchen. Give me details about the couch they're sitting on, what time of day it is, what they were doing when they watched this together. That doesn't make it into a story, but it doesn't need to be one. I just prefer them, personally. ;) It would, however, shift it into a vignette with very strong character elements, which I think would make it much stronger and more versatile - you could then use it more easily in the context of a story, and it makes a better introduction to the characters' lives for those who haven't read them before.
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Date: 2014-12-08 06:15 am (UTC)...That's a really long sentence.
http://jem0000000.livejournal.com/454556.html
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Date: 2014-12-08 04:04 pm (UTC)Cheers...
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Date: 2014-12-08 04:03 pm (UTC)Cheers...
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Date: 2014-12-08 10:02 pm (UTC)My only comment would be to break this sentence up: "Emil Bor's physical demeanor, the crispness of his uniform and the manner in which he wore it (together with the medals and orders he had been awarded) was the stuff designers of military recruiting posters dream of depicting, except that high-ranking officers like Bor never appear on such posters, and in any event, Bor's service branch never made use of such vulgar, public recruitment propaganda."
though I do understand that it might be a deliberate technique.
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Date: 2014-12-08 04:17 pm (UTC)"Be Careful What You Wish For..." (http://penpusher.livejournal.com/713971.html)
As "The Celebrity Apprentice" is due to start soon, it's a good time to revisit!
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Date: 2014-12-08 04:31 pm (UTC)I wrote this for this week's "critical hit" prompt: Moment (http://lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com/78970.html). I can see some of the strengths and weaknesses of this story, but I'd really like a wider set of input into how this piece could be improved. What do you like, what works, what totally doesn't work? Does the voice of the narrator seem right? What do you think of the ending, in particular? Thank you!
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Date: 2014-12-09 11:09 pm (UTC)This is very tell-y and not show-y. It's not a draft, though, of something bigger. At all. It is a short piece but perhaps it needs to be a longer short piece. With more showing. And perhaps a shift in POV - even if you try it experimentally. This is a great tool in your writer's toolbox - changing POVs, tenses, trying different ways to approach the same story.
Long set-ups are a GOOD thing unless you're writing flash or metafiction, which you're not. Allow yourself to write longer.
There is a very wordy intro to get to the point of "the strangest thing" and that long introduction left me wanting more strangeness. Or to have a more defined time stamp because if this happened in May and it's now August, then yes, that could be the strangest thing. If it happened 47 years ago in May then we need more from that opening volley. Also, I needed more foreshadowing of how this event was going to feel strange, why it would be the strangest thing. Time stopping is pretty strange but the strangest bit is the idea of someone manipulating future events through a stalled present, even your narrator closes with that. Does the narrator trust time now? Or is only suspicious of Amy's seeming command over it?
It doesn't matter whether your narrator is female or male but I did find myself wondering about this capacity for paying attention. I guess I needed to know more about the person telling the tale. And the why of telling it. The point of telling it.
Sentence level editing will draw your attention to structure such as this - The bus wasn't air conditioned, and the chance of a nice breeze coming off the ditch filled with beer cans or the empty cow pasture were pretty small. is the breeze or the ditch filled with beer cans? :)