[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
The new topic is up. Or rather, the new topic choices are up: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/793590.html

Once again, you have choices to make, that will end up impacting choices you will have further down the road.

How does it differ - having more than one topic idea in front of you instead of just one thing?

Is it easier? Because you can pick and choose? More difficult? Because you need to make a decision?

Different folks react in different ways to that sort of thing - would you rather have the structure of YOU MUST WRITE THIS or the freedom to pick and choose?

When you get right down to it, all topics are a form of "Open Topic", in that the only one that you are answerable to is yourself, and the votes of the readership. But sometimes that can be enough to sabotage your brain, and trip you up.

What techniques have you developed that have proven successful in approaching a new writing situation?

Date: 2014-10-15 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karmasoup.livejournal.com
Erk. Wasn't fond of these the first time around. Barely understood most of them. Will have to rack the brain this week. At least we have plenty of time.


(Also, frist!)
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Date: 2014-10-15 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellakite.livejournal.com
I can help explain/give suggestions regarding all the topics (except OVERWATCH). Drop me a line if you need input/suggestions.

PS: YOU'RE DEAD TO ME!

Date: 2014-10-15 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
Overwatch wasn't part of the original group IIRC.

...I've never heard of it.

:dashes off to Google:


ETA:

From Urban Dictionary: "elite soldiers trained for controlling and support of an administration or occupation, ex. The American and British overwatch currently is in Iraq trying to keep the peace. I'm reading this as overwatch = peacekeepers

NYT's "On Language" column discusses more here (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9901E6DE163DF937A25753C1A9619C8B63).


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Date: 2014-10-15 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhent.livejournal.com
yeah, I didn't think Overwatch was a part of the original intersection topic list, but I'll take it...

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Date: 2014-10-15 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
I'm just glad that my gut, "Oh, we're writing four entries this week," was wrong. ;)

Decisions are not my strong point. And I have a thing I'm only half done with due tomorrow, and it's a combination of fiction and a research project, so wheeeee. But I've poked at these before, and I think I'll be okay.

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Date: 2014-10-15 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com
I step away from the situation, honestly, and let my mind cast about in odd directions. Without fail, something comes to mind. And if it's not the right thing, then at least I'm writing, and I can put it into the "spare parts" folder for future use. It means that a forced topic and an open topic are pretty much the same thing for me ... biggest difference is how many guiding lights I have to steer by.

Date: 2014-10-15 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmousey.livejournal.com
::nods in agreement::

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Date: 2014-10-15 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Hmmm... I dunno. I think it's a little easier having an option of topics, to help inspire the entry, but overall as you said, they are all technically a form of "open topic".

Not sure which one I'll choose as yet, but I'm hedging towards either Shibusa or possibly Overwatch...

Date: 2014-10-15 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmousey.livejournal.com
Does this mean the topic our partners took is out also? I actually combined two with intersubjectivity (such a mouthful!) And captcha the flag.

Just trying to figure out if I've two or three options to pick from, and choice is always good. :)

Date: 2014-10-15 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
I know what you mean. Your partner's topic seems almost as used as your own, does it not?

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Date: 2014-10-15 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
Hmm, apparently 'overwatch' is not limited to the military term. It can mean 'watch over' as well as 'weary someone with long wait or lack of sleep'.

Yet I have I have never encountered it in any of these contexts.

Which of them seems the most common? The military one?

Date: 2014-10-15 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
I'm thinking of it as a thing you do when you're kind of surveying a lot of ground, for whatever reason -- "the tower squatted on the rise, seeming to overwatch the town with bristling stone brows" or something. But I might have it confused with "overlook", honestly.
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Date: 2014-10-15 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis43.livejournal.com
I don't like open topics, because I like to have a jumping-off point for my ideas. However, I really love turning the definition of a given topic around. I've noticed more gravitation toward the literal interpretations in this season (I think). Which means I've had a harder time getting inspired by the topics because I start off thinking my topic connection won't be perceived as "right."

tl;dr: I am neurotic. :)

I thought I was going to be really unhappy with seeing these topics again but I am currently sort of inspired by them, so that's nice.

Date: 2014-10-15 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
For some reason I like them a lot less now than the first time around. Probably because back then I could twist half of them to suit what was most on my mind, and now I can't do that anymore because I have already used them that way, lol.

Date: 2014-10-15 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] witchwife.livejournal.com
I personally enjoy the structure of the prompts. Although, that being said, having a few to choose from is a bit refreshing. I probably won't be going with "Captcha the flag".. partly because the slang makes it seem a bit less approachable to me. You'd have to write a very specific kind of story or character (or both) to fit the prompt. (Anyone else have any thoughts on this?)

I'll probably go for Shibusa or Overwatch. I really like Intersubjectivity as well, but it's a bit daunting. I feel like it's something that D.H Lawrence does particularly well in his writing and I'd be scared to even begin to approach it.

Date: 2014-10-16 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eska818.livejournal.com
The specific definition is in regards to the internet "captcha" tests that require you to enter numbers and/or letters in order to identify you as human. When I used it for the intersections I took it very loosely and focused on the concept of determining the humanity of a person.

Date: 2014-10-15 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryl.livejournal.com
Thank you sweet baby Jesus, the due date isn't until Monday! That gives me enough time to get my Behemoth Tower hooked back up to the Infernal Machine. I know that a major piece of hardware has gone bad and I haven't heard back from the Fixin' Shop yet. Getting a bit antsy here.

On a different note, I laughed my evil laugh when I saw the Return of the Topics. I hereby promise I will not write another disturbing suicide story. Roy Rogers' horse can stay in the stable this week.
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Date: 2014-10-15 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medleymisty.livejournal.com
Oh man, I missed that! Thanks for pointing it out! Yay we get the weekend!

Date: 2014-10-15 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medleymisty.livejournal.com
Most of these topics actually seem like they're right up my alley.

They also seem kind of Surreal Darkness-ish. Which hey, I'm here to write new stuff and get it done and up, not win, so if I want to use Sims pictures and a sort of serial thing I will! I do what I want! ;)

And I really like Surreal Darkness and it's fun and it's easy and fast, so no burn out. And it's a way to participate in the Sims community at the same time and do two things at once - have something for Idol, and have something for my Sims friends. :)

Actually I think it would be fairly easy to include all those topics in a Surreal Darkness bit. Since Surreal Darkness is supposed to be abstract and surreal and random and whatever I want it to be. :)

So...does "serial thing I have been writing for a bit over a year now using Sims scenery shots and that is very fluid and easily adaptable to almost anything" count as a technique for approaching a new writing situation?

Date: 2014-10-15 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
Speaking of Shibusa, here is a little gem, Paris at Night by Jacques Prévert:

Three matches one by one struck in the night
The first to see the whole of your face
The second to see your eyes
The last to see your mouth
And the complete and utter darkness to remember them all
While holding you in my arms.

Translation credit (http://movingpoems.com/2009/04/paris-at-night/)

Trois allumettes une à une allumées dans la nuit

La première pour voir ton visage tout entier
La seconde pour voir tes yeux
La dernière pour voir ta bouche
Et l’obscurité tout entiére pour me rappeler tout cela

En te serrant dans mes bras.
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Date: 2014-10-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whipchick.livejournal.com
That's beautiful, I'm so glad you posted it.

Date: 2014-10-15 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medleymisty.livejournal.com
Found this quote about intersubjectivity:

An intersubjective truth asserts a “fact” that a group of people agree implicitly to treat as axiomatic, and as though it were an objective truth. All moralities and collections of “common sense” are thus sets of intersubjective truths."

Also this site seems like a good reference:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/intersubjectivity/definitions.html

Date: 2014-10-16 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
Oh, this is a nice one.

Date: 2014-10-15 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxymoron67.livejournal.com
Usually, I spend some time racking my brain and it just goes "Lol, no."

And then, when I'm doing something else, like trying to sleep, an idea pops up.

I'm going in a much darker direction (well, for me) this time probably, and that bothers me. My more serious pieces tend not to do as well, for one, and this is something that I'm not particularly comfortable discussing.

On the other hand, maybe that discomfort is a reason to write the piece. I don't know.

Date: 2014-10-16 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
That depends on what the discomfort does to your writing. Were your other serious pieces also discomfitting to write?

GAH

Date: 2014-10-15 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eeyore-grrl.livejournal.com
Gah! I didn't like these topics the first time around! I'll see what I can do.

Date: 2014-10-15 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suesniffsglue.livejournal.com
Rapture of the Deep has been my favorite topic ever, I think. This is the first time I knew what I wanted to write before I sat down and started typing!

Date: 2014-10-15 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theun4givables.livejournal.com
http://martialways.blogspot.com/2011/10/what-is-shibumi-shibusa-shibui_05.html

A website that provided me with a better explanation of "Shibusa" than the wiki article. :)

When approaching new writing situations, I go with my gut. Hell, with tried and true writing situations, I try to go with my gut, too. :) This time around I'm kind of struggling. Hanging out so low to the bottom for so long in the poll will do that to you, I guess.

Either way, I need a break from the trend that's taken over in my writing. So we'll see how this week goes. :)

Date: 2014-10-16 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eska818.livejournal.com
When reading about Shibusa, these phrases caught my eye:

Elegant simplicity. Effortless effectiveness. Understated excellence. Beautiful imperfection.

Date: 2014-10-17 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crisp-sobriety.livejournal.com
Gotta say, I am loving the longer time to work on this.

Had no ideas whatsoever until about yesterday evening, when...you ever have those ideas that make you get up and pace around and mutter to yourself? All while grinning like an idiot? I had one of those. I'm not as in love with it now as I was for those glorious first 30 minutes (I see holes. I SEE HOOLLLESSS), but it's what I have, so I'm going with it.

Outline more or less done in my head, gonna start the actual writing at some point tonight.

Date: 2014-10-17 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crisp-sobriety.livejournal.com
My idea has split in two.

Two stories that are functionally identical, but with vastly different themes (not to mention a different genre), and would probably require different tools. Erk. I like them both. I want to write both!

Well, there's no time for that. I'll just have to dissect them both as best I can, and see whose insides I like better.

Date: 2014-10-17 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmousey.livejournal.com
Anyone around for a bit of concrit? My child has abandoned me *sniff* (teasing, Brat!)

Just PM me if you will! Thank you! :)

Date: 2014-10-17 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmousey.livejournal.com
Wait a minute... is this the link for LCI also? Hmmmm... It's not playing fair to confuse old ladies! LOL

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... help?

Date: 2014-10-17 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellakite.livejournal.com
OK. LCI. TOPIC = "HAIR SHIRT".

I know what it is... but right now I have no idea how to approach the topic.

Suggestions, please?

Re: ... help?

Date: 2014-10-17 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
It seems to me that you're constantly wearing one when writing.

It's unfortunate you have just written that meta, but why not write about other people who keep punishing themselves for no good reason?

Hmmm...

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Re: ... help?

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Date: 2014-10-17 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kehlen-crow.livejournal.com
What's with Last Chance topics? First the gutter, and now this.

First thoughts go to Les Miserables, especially the nuns in the convent where they hie from Javert and where Cosette was schooled, and whose winter garb was so heavy the felt feverish the first few days after doning it.

Date: 2014-10-17 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmousey.livejournal.com
First thought... my mother in law and the one she loves to wear... (yes, this is snark)

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