Work Room - Week 23
Sep. 29th, 2014 09:43 pmThe new topic is up: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/785896.html
By this point, you should have a pretty decent idea of what you want to do, and how to accomplish it.
What have you done though that you have been pleasantly surprised has been so well received?
Or shocked that the general readership didn't seem to like better?
What surprises have there been in how other people appear to see your work, and how have you applied that (if at all) moving forward?
By this point, you should have a pretty decent idea of what you want to do, and how to accomplish it.
What have you done though that you have been pleasantly surprised has been so well received?
Or shocked that the general readership didn't seem to like better?
What surprises have there been in how other people appear to see your work, and how have you applied that (if at all) moving forward?
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Date: 2014-09-30 01:48 am (UTC)That said, I thought last week's piece got a great response, which I wasn't expecting. The dragon has gone over very well too, and the psychopath ship.
For this week, I have nothing yet. It's shaping up to be a busy week as well, so let's hope I get something written as I cannot stay up until the deadline, at all!
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Date: 2014-09-30 01:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-09-30 02:46 am (UTC)And something that you were egged on to do in the Green Room, so... :D
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Date: 2014-09-30 02:12 am (UTC)I don't think there's anything I've written that has left me shaking my fist and going, "You don't appreciate my artistic genius!" ...but that's not my temperament, anyway. :)
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Date: 2014-09-30 02:47 am (UTC)It was one of the best for the prompt, I thought.
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Date: 2014-09-30 02:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-09-30 04:29 am (UTC)...er, sorry. I mean, I know what you mean, and I've been surprised at the things I've posted that I have thought about withdrawing and how well they've done. Last week, for instance, I thought about pulling it after two of my closest friends went, "...Jenn, I don't like it"—but et voila, I got a lot of really positive feedback from the Idol community. :)
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Date: 2014-09-30 03:57 am (UTC)Each of the previous seasons I've done, by the time I reached Week 20 I usually had at least one piece that I *REALLY* felt proud about. I can't say that's happened yet this season...
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Date: 2014-09-30 03:58 am (UTC)I'm surprised one I did early in the season - The Mouse, the Cherry Tree, and the Surgical Student - did well. That story was about a Chechen vet in his twenties and the whole aesthetic of that piece was based on the kind of thing you'd find on the Russian internet from Udaff or wherever, by angry young male amateurs, having been badly translated into English for some inexplicable reason...I thought it would be pretty unappealing, but people seemed to like the main character. In Exhibit B I did a nice, sweet slice-of-life story about playing around with my kid cousins, I got a phenomenal response to that.
I think maybe people like things they can access easily, my more realistic stuff seems to do better (science fiction seems to be the real kiss of death around here, not poetry). Lately if I have any goal when I sit down and write for Idol, it's to make everything as honest as possible. If I write about myself, I feel like I'm just blogging, I try to make up for that by pushing to scrutinize myself as deeply as I can. That level of penetration is hard work and unflattering - did I stop talking here because I was ashamed; or because that twinge of guilt made me tired of the conversation and embarrassed and I just wanted everybody to shut up? I'll always go for the second level of detail. And if I want to write fiction, if a fictional character does something because it's the kind of thing that seems right to me, I try to be honest with that too, and ask these same questions, and expose as much as I can about what they're thinking. So I try to make stuff I write accessible and familiar in the sense that it's about human behavior. (Not always, sometimes I just want to write a mood or an archetype or something.)
I worry a bit that my stuff is a little dense and inaccessible, or too hard to read in some other way.
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Date: 2014-09-30 04:09 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-09-30 04:15 am (UTC)I have noticed fiction does better than non, which frustrates me, because nonfiction is easier for me. ::shrug::
In other news, the topic is apparently a movie title. I got nothin.
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Date: 2014-09-30 04:23 am (UTC)There's also the risk that what you think is stand-alone doesn't give enough background on the characters or their motivations to make sense to someone that hasn't been keeping up with the serial. You're the author, so you know exactly what's what, and you can try to put everything in, but in a timeline like we're on for Idol, it's difficult. Sure, you can get someone else to read it, but anyone that volunteers to beta is probably going to be familiar with the other writing, and they might not notice what's missing, either.
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Date: 2014-09-30 07:42 am (UTC)So perhaps it's due to the lonnnnnng rehearsal I had tonight, but I'm grasping at straws for ideas on the topic.
Grasping and... failing?
Am I alone in this?
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Date: 2014-09-30 08:18 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-09-30 08:17 am (UTC)The fic in question was over 8000 words that deliberately alternated between POV and tense and included one character who was basically a ghost and just, yeah. My beta was pretty much the genius who ended up getting it over the line!
As for how other people see my work... Prior to Idol, 99.9% of the writing I've made public has been fanfic and for only a handful of fandoms. I have a reputation in those fandoms for being the Angst Queen, and even won an 'award' thing once titled exactly that! It's proved a difficult habit to break, tbh. Though, I can't say I've ever made a concerted effort to try...! Hey, what can I say? I'm partial to some fictional angst!
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Date: 2014-09-30 01:38 pm (UTC)I'm always open to constructive criticism, and am still completely unsure of where to take this prompt!
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Date: 2014-09-30 02:08 pm (UTC)I've been really surprised over my nonfiction going over so well. Especially since there's *so much of it,* this go around. As I said somewhere else in this post, I'm actually getting sick of writing nonfiction. I guess I'm just surprised that the readers aren't bored of me whining about my situation, yet. xD
Of course, I can't think of anything fiction for this topic, either. Or well, I can. But I literally only have "I'm dead fucking tired," time to write, these next few days, since I work. Which is not conducive to good fiction writing, from me. *sigh*
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Date: 2014-09-30 06:24 pm (UTC)If somebody said to me, "Hey, remember the X entry you wrote for Y prompt back in Season Z?" I'd be like, huh?!?!?
This season I'm tagging all my Idol entries. On my laptop I'm saving them with the prompt plus a couple of keywords so I won't be totally lost if I go back to look at them ("I wrote THAT?!?") Here on LJ I'm just tagging what genre they are.
Reminds me how different my thinking style is from SO's. He can remember the minutest of details from something I wrote X years ago while I flail when he asks me "Don't you remember reading what I wrote in that blog post X weeks ago?" Yeah, if I stop and think, it'll jog my memory. Otherwise he has to give me a hint because...I know I read it, but I can't immediately recall it, you know?
please tell me I'm not the only one like this please
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Date: 2014-09-30 06:28 pm (UTC)There are some prompts I don't remember at all in the haze of entries we've been producing week after week.
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Date: 2014-09-30 08:03 pm (UTC)Mostly because I'd never written those stories down... Heck, I'd never even TOLD the attempted beach sex story before, and I thought they both turned out well.
I've noticed that my humorous entries are more well-received than my serious ones.
I am always thrilled when I do well, because I know I have a niche. I don't really write fiction and my brain isn't wired to write poetry, so I appreciate when people read my entries and don't immediately say, "Damn. Is this all this dude talks about?"
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Date: 2014-09-30 09:50 pm (UTC)My nonfiction has done better than I would have expected. That surprises me just because I don't LIKE nonfiction nearly as much as fiction (both reading and writing it). The one nonfiction piece I most enjoyed I wrote for the week I got eliminated from Season 8. Go figure. Sometimes I get the impression people like my rare nonfiction more than my fiction, which boggles my mind a little.
There was an Exhibit piece that I struggled with and deliberately wrote to be different from my norm (it was depressing as hell, which I normally don't write), and it was surprisingly well-received with a number of people asking "what happens next?" and appearing to get emotionally involved with the characters.
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Date: 2014-10-01 02:48 am (UTC)And annoyed about ending up in Redemption tribe (with a music topic, no less). ;)
LJ Idol has really pushed me to work with characters and dialog, neither of which I'd before.
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Date: 2014-10-02 11:16 pm (UTC)I have very little confidence in my ability as a writer (so yes, a competition like LJ Idol isn't necessarily the best place for me to be sometimes) so I figure that all I can do is to try and write something that I like - if others like it, then it is a bonus.