[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
Since I'm here anyway, and I've seen/heard some people asking for clarification, I figured I might as well make it a "Green Room/FAQ". A "ask Gary" session, if you will...

3 big questions that I think have been answered by astute folks out there who were able to translate my mad ramblings into English. But I wanted to make sure to garble them out again just in case someone didn't get them in my previous attempts to convey whatever it is that I say! (it's ok, I don't listen either!*g*)

The three main questions seem to be "what the heck is a bye anyway?", "how are they used?" and "why are folks who have used them on the voting polls/who are these people who keep voting for them?"

The fourth, but more important question seems to be "How can I meet you in person/have your love children/send you all my money and/cookies." The answer to that one is just contact me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com!!!

Heh.

Anyway. The serious answers.



What is a "bye"? That's b y e for those listening to this.

It tends to be used more in American football. At least that's where I first came across the term. It may be used elsewhere, not really sure about that. It's a one time "immunity". How it translates in this particular game is that you use it when you just can't, for whatever reason, submit an entry for that round.

Topic too touch or real life just hitting on the wrong time? You can use a "bye" and not be penalized.

I took an extra step of giving people two of them. That means during the course of the game you can say "man, I just can't get this entry in on time" twice.

How do you declare a bye? You either post it in the topic thread. "I am taking my bye". It doesn't have to be those words, but you get the idea. It works better when you do it there. HOWEVER, and I did this because I know a lot of people have had problems with Livejournal in the past and maybe they just can't even get on it, I will also accept an email to me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com just letting me know that you are taking a bye.

What happens if you do not do this? Well, I like to try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and this is where the confusion seem to have come from.

You have two byes. You can completely and utterly not post saying you are taking one, or not send an email. You can just be dealing with whatever has come up in your life to deal with, and just not bother with letting anyone know. That is then listed as an "automatic bye". If you use one of them this way, you don't get to use your other one. Basically I'm saying "you don't get two automatic byes". If you say "I'm using it" even once, doesn't matter if it's the first time or the second time, that's cool.

But if you don't let me know either time, then you are automatically dropped. I think it's a reasonable assumption that you are no longer interested in continuing in the competition if you miss more than two weeks. Even more of a reasonable assumption is that you probably have things going on in your life that you need to be paying attention to than staying in Idol. (although, really, what could be more important than us?*g*)

As for why they are listed in the voting poll when someone uses a bye. Why aren't they just not listed, or some sort of other thing put in the place?

The first part has two answers. One is for you. Some people like to keep track of that sort of thing, and there it is in black and white. (or whatever color scheme you use) You know who is still in the competition and who has taken a bye. If you want to know how many they have taken, well you just go back over the last couple of polls and check it out for yourself.

The second part is for myself and [livejournal.com profile] kithan. Previously, people who missed deadlines were taken out and put in a separate poll. People hated that a LOT more than they hate this system!! But when it came time to put them back into the next week's polls there was always a fear of screwing it up. Oops, we forgot to put so-and-so back... I think it happened once in Season 1, and there were only 9 people in that one! (but I was running it completely by myself and I'm a bit of an idiot!*g*) Or maybe season 2... but still, I wanted to "dummy proof" the system, and keeping them in seemed the best way.

Some people can answer the coding question *a lot* better than I can, because as stated, hello, I know nothing!! But essentially why they have the "bye week" text rather than taking out the button altogether is to make it easier for week to week maintenance and getting you guys the polls as quickly as possible every week instead of having to go back and change coding constantly.

I drive [livejournal.com profile] kithan crazy enough as it is. There's a reason this is season 4 and I've had 3 assistants since we've started! I'm not easy on them and they do a wonderful job not only putting things together, but dealing with the far tougher job of putting up with the fact that I'm pretty much insane!*g*

As for who are these people who vote for people with a bye week? Well I know who one of those people usually is. Hi. How are you. I vote for every one, almost every time. I've said that before. Sometimes I do like one person more than another and will vote for them instead. That's rare though, and even when that happens, I've used my one vote, the same as anyone else can use their one vote. Once the poll is posted the game is out of my hands until I see what the voters have decided! Which is awfully exciting for me too!
Why other people would vote for them? Well I suppose I could go back through the votes and look by the case by case and figure it out. But ultimately, does it really matter? Some people just like clicky boxes. I certainly do!!!
click click click!!! The votes don't count. If someone wants to throw an "atta boy" out there, it doesn't do any harm. Heck, maybe it will do some good so that they can look, see their name and go "man, I didn't even submit anything and I still got votes! I really need to write something next week!" Maybe not, but who knows...



Hopefully that answers your questions. If it doesn't though, or you still have some - about anything involving the game, or heck, things you just want to know, I'll be online for the next hour or so, and I think [livejournal.com profile] kithan probably be as well. More importantly though, there are some players out there - both veterans and newbies - who are extremely sharp about these sorts of things, who will be able to either help you or at least point you in the right direction.

Hope you are all having a great weekend - and good luck with the voting!

Date: 2007-11-17 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Thanks for all the answers! Makes sense anyway.

*looks around*

Don't tell me I'm the first one to comment?

Date: 2007-11-18 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sircaliban.livejournal.com
Ok. Your not the first one to comment.

Date: 2007-11-18 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindapoetry.livejournal.com
if it makes you feel better, you were the 3,543,008th comment on LiveJournal. :)

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Date: 2007-11-17 08:09 pm (UTC)
fidget: (Somebody Kill Me Please)
From: [personal profile] fidget
Sorry for the stupid question, but which topic thread do we post a bye week comment in -- the entry submission threads or the green room threads? Because I've heard (and seen) both.

Date: 2007-11-17 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennieknits.livejournal.com
Topic thread. It's ok if you post it in the green room, but if it's not in the topic thread it may be missed.

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Date: 2007-11-17 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomeangel.livejournal.com
MICHAEL J FOX - I'M ON THE FIRST PAGE!!!

getting up at 5:30am has finally paid off for this little australian!

woo hoo!!!

crap on a stick (http://gnomeangel.livejournal.com/389705.html) it's all down hill from here...
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A gathering of peers?

Date: 2007-11-17 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spydielives.livejournal.com
Thanks for the answers/clarifications...

Now, about those love children meeting in person?

If you ever want to visit our nation's capital, I have TWO separate sleeping spaces available, plus floor space if we need more.

So... Come on up! I need trips booked in advance, of course, but I would love to meet some people f2f.

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Date: 2007-11-17 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomeangel.livejournal.com
we could do an exchange program

*maniac nod*

it'd be grand...

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Date: 2007-11-17 09:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hopefulnebula
Thank you for this!

Now, I'm tired and I think I'm going to go back to bed, and man, typing on a different keyboard layout is slooooow when you're not used to it. I might have to put off my Dvorak training until after term paper season.

Date: 2007-11-17 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittytech.livejournal.com
Personally, having been one of those people who chose to use one of my bye weeks this week, I felt pretty good knowing that I got more than just my vote for myself even if they don't count. To me it says that at least we're still being supported, even if it's not by as big a margin.

Date: 2007-11-17 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 40sw.livejournal.com
just as a general aside, bye is I think short for bypass- it comes into play in almost any tournament situation where there are an uneven number of competitors- if there are three on one side of the bracket, 2 compete to advance and the other is given a bye and automatically advances 'cause there isn't anyone to compete against for the priviledge of advancing

I mostly know this from wrestling
bye week is kindof a new one on me 'cause I don't follow football but wikipedia of course explains it for all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bye_%28sports%29

Date: 2007-11-18 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewok-626.livejournal.com
Do I get immunity for being the first to send you cookies this season? (They were EAT 'N PARK'S BLACK AND GOLD "TRIBUTE TO THE STEELERS" SMILEY COOKIES!!! You can't get much better than that!)

Date: 2007-11-18 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomeangel.livejournal.com
if immunity's going to be handed out, i think i should get it. technically mine were there first, he just hadn't picked them up yet.

*smug look*

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3 questions

Date: 2007-11-18 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imafarmgirl.livejournal.com
1. Why aren't people spell checking their entries? I think it is rude. Anyone on my flist knows I don't spell check regular entries, and I am a poor speller for various reasons probably no one cares about, but I always run my idol entries through the MS Word spell checker to catch most of them. I've seen spelling errors such as teh, comming, afternon, and so on in people's entries.

2. Will the tribes remain throughout the entire competition?

3. Will the chances to use the bye weeks end?

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Date: 2007-11-18 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushimustwrite.livejournal.com
1) Good question. Idol entries are pretty much the only entries I run through spell check, and my flist also knows this.

2) Answers, Gary?

3) I'm pretty sure it's between the beginning and the Top 50. *looks it up* Yup, top 50. (http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/72539.html)

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Date: 2007-11-18 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sircaliban.livejournal.com
Has anyone named the tribes yet?

Tribal names

Date: 2007-11-18 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spydielives.livejournal.com
1. Dorkies
2. Nerdies
3. Geekies

I have been trying to get people to use these names since I proposed them during round 1 voting!

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I have a question!

Date: 2007-11-18 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordrexfear.livejournal.com
Will someone give me a back massage please?

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Date: 2007-11-18 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindapoetry.livejournal.com
yay for clicky boxes!

that is all.

Of course the big question is...

Date: 2007-11-19 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naamaire.livejournal.com
What is the next topic going to be? Given what we've had so far, I'm thinking it's likely to be something like, "What I carve into my arm with a broken whiskey bottle at 3 in the morning".

Heh. All three so far have been rough for me.

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Date: 2007-11-19 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennieknits.livejournal.com
Just a guess, but I'm thinking something to go with the Thanksgiving holiday. Either that or Monday's topic won't be, but we'll have another one later in the week for it.

Date: 2007-11-19 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennieknits.livejournal.com
I promised a few people that I'd share some more stories of "young Jennie", so here they are: http://jennielynn1127.livejournal.com/331921.html

Not contest related, but those that I promised are all in the contest, so I thought I'd link here.

This green room seems kind of dead today anyway.

Date: 2007-11-19 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushimustwrite.livejournal.com
Ooh, thanks! (Even if I wasn't one of those you promised, but hey.)

We should have a Weekend Green Room every weekend. Anyone else up for it?

Cookies, anyone?

Date: 2007-11-19 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
So I'm a participant in [livejournal.com profile] gnomeangel's LJ Idol Cookie Swap, and my recipe made 6 dozen cookies.

Two dozen, I'm sending to my Swap buddy.
One dozen, I'm keeping (heck, they're *good* cookies).

I've emailed [livejournal.com profile] clauderainsrm to see if he'd like a dozen (but he hasn't gotten back to me yet).

That leaves another two dozen up for grabs.

So if any two LJ Idolers (preferably, people that I don't already know IRL) would each like me to send them 1 dozen cookies, leave a comment here and then email me your name and mailing addy to Pandria @ aol.com.

I'm not going to say what kind of cookies they are, but I will say that a) there's eggs in the recipe, so it's not Vegan, and b) there's white flour in the recipe, so it's not gluten-free.

Beyond that, it'll be a surprise - although I will include a copy of the recipe along with the cookies so you can make them yourself should you like them!

Ready? Go!

Re: Cookies, anyone?

Date: 2007-11-19 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyozma.livejournal.com
That is very generous of you. :)

And you remind me that I need to locate my rec... December is cookie swap month for like... everything I do. LOL

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Date: 2007-11-19 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pete-wisdom.livejournal.com
Well, I don't bake nor have the interest in making mad, passionate love with [livejournal.com profile] clauderainsrm, but guess who's getting a $WINTERHOLIDAY card in the mail sometime in the next month? :-)

Now all I have to do is remember to ask for the snail mail address...

Re: Cookies, anyone?

Date: 2007-11-19 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyozma.livejournal.com
No need to share with me. I'm about to hit mega baking mode myself. I just wanted to applaud you for your generousity!!!!! :)

I may be in here though trying to pawn off some fudge in a week or two. LOL (Once December hits)

Date: 2007-11-20 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldofcharlie.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting this... :)

Date: 2007-11-22 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n-decisive.livejournal.com
Hi- and happy Turkey Gobblin' Day! :)

I've done something that I *think* is legal, but I want to make certain and I didn't see it covered in the FAQ posts. (Granted, it's 2:30 in the morning, so I might have missed it.)

My entry is in two parts- oh, great, I just realized that might not be okay, either- and I have linked to part one and part two with separate comments on the topic post. Is it "legal" for me to have two parts and to link twice?

I'm having a very good time here so far, and I thank you for it. Also, I agree that [livejournal.com profile] imafarmgirl writes very well and will go far!

Date: 2007-11-27 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunshine-sparx.livejournal.com
Q: So are you looking for new contestants now or do you have enough already?


Q: Do contestants post in this LJ-community or in thier own LJ's?

Date: 2007-11-28 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] welfy.livejournal.com
I have a question but I'll email it to you! :^)

Date: 2007-11-28 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomeangel.livejournal.com
ok...

*curious*

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