Since I'm here anyway, and I've seen/heard some people asking for clarification, I figured I might as well make it a "Green Room/FAQ". A "ask Gary" session, if you will...
3 big questions that I think have been answered by astute folks out there who were able to translate my mad ramblings into English. But I wanted to make sure to garble them out again just in case someone didn't get them in my previous attempts to convey whatever it is that I say! (it's ok, I don't listen either!*g*)
The three main questions seem to be "what the heck is a bye anyway?", "how are they used?" and "why are folks who have used them on the voting polls/who are these people who keep voting for them?"
The fourth, but more important question seems to be "How can I meet you in person/have your love children/send you all my money and/cookies." The answer to that one is just contact me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com!!!
Heh.
Anyway. The serious answers.
What is a "bye"? That's b y e for those listening to this.
It tends to be used more in American football. At least that's where I first came across the term. It may be used elsewhere, not really sure about that. It's a one time "immunity". How it translates in this particular game is that you use it when you just can't, for whatever reason, submit an entry for that round.
Topic too touch or real life just hitting on the wrong time? You can use a "bye" and not be penalized.
I took an extra step of giving people two of them. That means during the course of the game you can say "man, I just can't get this entry in on time" twice.
How do you declare a bye? You either post it in the topic thread. "I am taking my bye". It doesn't have to be those words, but you get the idea. It works better when you do it there. HOWEVER, and I did this because I know a lot of people have had problems with Livejournal in the past and maybe they just can't even get on it, I will also accept an email to me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com just letting me know that you are taking a bye.
What happens if you do not do this? Well, I like to try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and this is where the confusion seem to have come from.
You have two byes. You can completely and utterly not post saying you are taking one, or not send an email. You can just be dealing with whatever has come up in your life to deal with, and just not bother with letting anyone know. That is then listed as an "automatic bye". If you use one of them this way, you don't get to use your other one. Basically I'm saying "you don't get two automatic byes". If you say "I'm using it" even once, doesn't matter if it's the first time or the second time, that's cool.
But if you don't let me know either time, then you are automatically dropped. I think it's a reasonable assumption that you are no longer interested in continuing in the competition if you miss more than two weeks. Even more of a reasonable assumption is that you probably have things going on in your life that you need to be paying attention to than staying in Idol. (although, really, what could be more important than us?*g*)
As for why they are listed in the voting poll when someone uses a bye. Why aren't they just not listed, or some sort of other thing put in the place?
The first part has two answers. One is for you. Some people like to keep track of that sort of thing, and there it is in black and white. (or whatever color scheme you use) You know who is still in the competition and who has taken a bye. If you want to know how many they have taken, well you just go back over the last couple of polls and check it out for yourself.
The second part is for myself and
kithan. Previously, people who missed deadlines were taken out and put in a separate poll. People hated that a LOT more than they hate this system!! But when it came time to put them back into the next week's polls there was always a fear of screwing it up. Oops, we forgot to put so-and-so back... I think it happened once in Season 1, and there were only 9 people in that one! (but I was running it completely by myself and I'm a bit of an idiot!*g*) Or maybe season 2... but still, I wanted to "dummy proof" the system, and keeping them in seemed the best way.
Some people can answer the coding question *a lot* better than I can, because as stated, hello, I know nothing!! But essentially why they have the "bye week" text rather than taking out the button altogether is to make it easier for week to week maintenance and getting you guys the polls as quickly as possible every week instead of having to go back and change coding constantly.
I drive
kithan crazy enough as it is. There's a reason this is season 4 and I've had 3 assistants since we've started! I'm not easy on them and they do a wonderful job not only putting things together, but dealing with the far tougher job of putting up with the fact that I'm pretty much insane!*g*
As for who are these people who vote for people with a bye week? Well I know who one of those people usually is. Hi. How are you. I vote for every one, almost every time. I've said that before. Sometimes I do like one person more than another and will vote for them instead. That's rare though, and even when that happens, I've used my one vote, the same as anyone else can use their one vote. Once the poll is posted the game is out of my hands until I see what the voters have decided! Which is awfully exciting for me too!
Why other people would vote for them? Well I suppose I could go back through the votes and look by the case by case and figure it out. But ultimately, does it really matter? Some people just like clicky boxes. I certainly do!!!
click click click!!! The votes don't count. If someone wants to throw an "atta boy" out there, it doesn't do any harm. Heck, maybe it will do some good so that they can look, see their name and go "man, I didn't even submit anything and I still got votes! I really need to write something next week!" Maybe not, but who knows...
Hopefully that answers your questions. If it doesn't though, or you still have some - about anything involving the game, or heck, things you just want to know, I'll be online for the next hour or so, and I think
kithan probably be as well. More importantly though, there are some players out there - both veterans and newbies - who are extremely sharp about these sorts of things, who will be able to either help you or at least point you in the right direction.
Hope you are all having a great weekend - and good luck with the voting!
3 big questions that I think have been answered by astute folks out there who were able to translate my mad ramblings into English. But I wanted to make sure to garble them out again just in case someone didn't get them in my previous attempts to convey whatever it is that I say! (it's ok, I don't listen either!*g*)
The three main questions seem to be "what the heck is a bye anyway?", "how are they used?" and "why are folks who have used them on the voting polls/who are these people who keep voting for them?"
The fourth, but more important question seems to be "How can I meet you in person/have your love children/send you all my money and/cookies." The answer to that one is just contact me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com!!!
Heh.
Anyway. The serious answers.
What is a "bye"? That's b y e for those listening to this.
It tends to be used more in American football. At least that's where I first came across the term. It may be used elsewhere, not really sure about that. It's a one time "immunity". How it translates in this particular game is that you use it when you just can't, for whatever reason, submit an entry for that round.
Topic too touch or real life just hitting on the wrong time? You can use a "bye" and not be penalized.
I took an extra step of giving people two of them. That means during the course of the game you can say "man, I just can't get this entry in on time" twice.
How do you declare a bye? You either post it in the topic thread. "I am taking my bye". It doesn't have to be those words, but you get the idea. It works better when you do it there. HOWEVER, and I did this because I know a lot of people have had problems with Livejournal in the past and maybe they just can't even get on it, I will also accept an email to me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com just letting me know that you are taking a bye.
What happens if you do not do this? Well, I like to try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and this is where the confusion seem to have come from.
You have two byes. You can completely and utterly not post saying you are taking one, or not send an email. You can just be dealing with whatever has come up in your life to deal with, and just not bother with letting anyone know. That is then listed as an "automatic bye". If you use one of them this way, you don't get to use your other one. Basically I'm saying "you don't get two automatic byes". If you say "I'm using it" even once, doesn't matter if it's the first time or the second time, that's cool.
But if you don't let me know either time, then you are automatically dropped. I think it's a reasonable assumption that you are no longer interested in continuing in the competition if you miss more than two weeks. Even more of a reasonable assumption is that you probably have things going on in your life that you need to be paying attention to than staying in Idol. (although, really, what could be more important than us?*g*)
As for why they are listed in the voting poll when someone uses a bye. Why aren't they just not listed, or some sort of other thing put in the place?
The first part has two answers. One is for you. Some people like to keep track of that sort of thing, and there it is in black and white. (or whatever color scheme you use) You know who is still in the competition and who has taken a bye. If you want to know how many they have taken, well you just go back over the last couple of polls and check it out for yourself.
The second part is for myself and
Some people can answer the coding question *a lot* better than I can, because as stated, hello, I know nothing!! But essentially why they have the "bye week" text rather than taking out the button altogether is to make it easier for week to week maintenance and getting you guys the polls as quickly as possible every week instead of having to go back and change coding constantly.
I drive
As for who are these people who vote for people with a bye week? Well I know who one of those people usually is. Hi. How are you. I vote for every one, almost every time. I've said that before. Sometimes I do like one person more than another and will vote for them instead. That's rare though, and even when that happens, I've used my one vote, the same as anyone else can use their one vote. Once the poll is posted the game is out of my hands until I see what the voters have decided! Which is awfully exciting for me too!
Why other people would vote for them? Well I suppose I could go back through the votes and look by the case by case and figure it out. But ultimately, does it really matter? Some people just like clicky boxes. I certainly do!!!
click click click!!! The votes don't count. If someone wants to throw an "atta boy" out there, it doesn't do any harm. Heck, maybe it will do some good so that they can look, see their name and go "man, I didn't even submit anything and I still got votes! I really need to write something next week!" Maybe not, but who knows...
Hopefully that answers your questions. If it doesn't though, or you still have some - about anything involving the game, or heck, things you just want to know, I'll be online for the next hour or so, and I think
Hope you are all having a great weekend - and good luck with the voting!
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Date: 2007-11-17 08:03 pm (UTC)*looks around*
Don't tell me I'm the first one to comment?
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Date: 2007-11-17 08:20 pm (UTC)If you are playing the "Home Game" I tell them to post it there, and I think there were a couple folks who changed their entries and wanted to say "hey! I changed it!"
But the only officially recognized place to post it is in the Topic Thread.
Which is why no other comments are permitted there. We don't want the actual entries to get lost in the shuffle.
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Date: 2007-11-17 08:19 pm (UTC)getting up at 5:30am has finally paid off for this little australian!
woo hoo!!!
crap on a stick (http://gnomeangel.livejournal.com/389705.html) it's all down hill from here...
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Date: 2007-11-17 08:41 pm (UTC)Now, about
those love childrenmeeting in person?If you ever want to visit our nation's capital, I have TWO separate sleeping spaces available, plus floor space if we need more.
So... Come on up! I need trips booked in advance, of course, but I would love to meet some people f2f.
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Date: 2007-11-17 08:43 pm (UTC)*maniac nod*
it'd be grand...
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Date: 2007-11-17 09:18 pm (UTC)Now, I'm tired and I think I'm going to go back to bed, and man, typing on a different keyboard layout is slooooow when you're not used to it. I might have to put off my Dvorak training until after term paper season.
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Date: 2007-11-17 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-17 10:30 pm (UTC)I mostly know this from wrestling
bye week is kindof a new one on me 'cause I don't follow football but wikipedia of course explains it for all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bye_%28sports%29
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Date: 2007-11-18 12:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-18 12:41 am (UTC)*smug look*
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Date: 2007-11-18 03:09 am (UTC)2. Will the tribes remain throughout the entire competition?
3. Will the chances to use the bye weeks end?
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Date: 2007-11-18 03:31 am (UTC)2) Answers, Gary?
3) I'm pretty sure it's between the beginning and the Top 50. *looks it up* Yup, top 50. (http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/72539.html)
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Date: 2007-11-18 03:35 am (UTC)Tribal names
Date: 2007-11-18 03:37 am (UTC)2. Nerdies
3. Geekies
I have been trying to get people to use these names since I proposed them during round 1 voting!
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Date: 2007-11-18 04:13 am (UTC)Re: I have a question!
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Date: 2007-11-18 05:40 am (UTC)that is all.
Of course the big question is...
Date: 2007-11-19 12:04 am (UTC)Heh. All three so far have been rough for me.
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Date: 2007-11-19 12:05 am (UTC)Not contest related, but those that I promised are all in the contest, so I thought I'd link here.
This green room seems kind of dead today anyway.
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Date: 2007-11-19 03:19 am (UTC)We should have a Weekend Green Room every weekend. Anyone else up for it?
Cookies, anyone?
Date: 2007-11-19 05:07 am (UTC)Two dozen, I'm sending to my Swap buddy.
One dozen, I'm keeping (heck, they're *good* cookies).
I've emailed
That leaves another two dozen up for grabs.
So if any two LJ Idolers (preferably, people that I don't already know IRL) would each like me to send them 1 dozen cookies, leave a comment here and then email me your name and mailing addy to Pandria @ aol.com.
I'm not going to say what kind of cookies they are, but I will say that a) there's eggs in the recipe, so it's not Vegan, and b) there's white flour in the recipe, so it's not gluten-free.
Beyond that, it'll be a surprise - although I will include a copy of the recipe along with the cookies so you can make them yourself should you like them!
Ready? Go!
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Date: 2007-11-19 05:50 am (UTC)And you remind me that I need to locate my rec... December is cookie swap month for like... everything I do. LOL
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Date: 2007-11-19 01:38 pm (UTC)Now all I have to do is remember to ask for the snail mail address...
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Date: 2007-11-19 01:52 pm (UTC)I may be in here though trying to pawn off some fudge in a week or two. LOL (Once December hits)
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Date: 2007-11-20 03:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-22 07:36 am (UTC)I've done something that I *think* is legal, but I want to make certain and I didn't see it covered in the FAQ posts. (Granted, it's 2:30 in the morning, so I might have missed it.)
My entry is in two parts- oh, great, I just realized that might not be okay, either- and I have linked to part one and part two with separate comments on the topic post. Is it "legal" for me to have two parts and to link twice?
I'm having a very good time here so far, and I thank you for it. Also, I agree that
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Date: 2007-11-27 03:22 pm (UTC)Q: Do contestants post in this LJ-community or in thier own LJ's?
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Date: 2007-12-06 10:01 pm (UTC)1. This season is closed. When next season opens I'll be posting a sign up sheet.
2. They post their entries in their own LJs and link back here to the topic thread.
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Date: 2007-11-28 01:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-28 03:45 am (UTC)*curious*