Green Room - Week 12 - Day 5
Jun. 17th, 2014 09:20 amThere are still two more days left to get in your entry! http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/748526.html
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We were talking this morning about songs that completely go against everything we stand for - but are just so damn cool that we love them anyway!
This really goes beyond music though.
What are some of the things that if someone were to lay out the lyrics or themes that you would squirm more than a little bit - but damnit, you just love???
So make sure you are there when the starter pistol goes off for the week!
If you are still struggling, there is always the Work Room: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/748602.html to go to get advice!
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We were talking this morning about songs that completely go against everything we stand for - but are just so damn cool that we love them anyway!
This really goes beyond music though.
What are some of the things that if someone were to lay out the lyrics or themes that you would squirm more than a little bit - but damnit, you just love???
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Date: 2014-06-17 01:23 pm (UTC)...and that's not a good thing, is it?
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Date: 2014-06-17 01:37 pm (UTC)Oh, and FIRST. Nanananananananana.
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Date: 2014-06-17 01:51 pm (UTC)But, I really like it and I hope everyone else does too! It was FUN to write!! Now I need a nap - although I'm at work, so I won't get one - and MORE STARBUCKS.
Also, 3rd or 5th depending on how one counts comments to comments. ;)
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Date: 2014-06-17 01:56 pm (UTC)Go on, nap at work.
And THIRD!
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Date: 2014-06-17 02:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-06-17 02:06 pm (UTC)Definitely most Rap songs fall into that category, but there are plenty of novels and film that do, and it's always a moralizing prick during and after.
I just finished the terrible horrible novella by Joyce Carol Oates about a serial killer - "Zombie". Mmmm....I dunno. Is that really art? More art than say Harris' cannibal series...but is that entertainment? And that brings us to the tv outing "Hannibal" and as luscious and beautiful and psychological as it is....why do we want to watch that?
Or Cormac McCarthy's utterly brilliant "Child of God" or Nick Cave's "And the Ass Saw the Angel"? So much of SouthernGoth is questionably dark and disturbing. But I love it so so so much. Wrote endless papers focusing on it. Devour it.
Keanu Reeves' character in "The Lakehouse" when told by Bullock's character that she loves a sad sad book asks her so simply and without guile, "Why do you like that?"
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Date: 2014-06-17 02:33 pm (UTC)I never saw "The Lakehouse" but it seemed interesting. I've actually never watched/read any of the stuff you mentioned, probably because I know it squicks me out or people who might recommend it to me would know it squicks me out.
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Date: 2014-06-17 04:32 pm (UTC)Also, Southern Gothic is one of the ideas on the table for this week's entry for me. Somehow.
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Date: 2014-06-17 02:30 pm (UTC)I also find that I tend to love songs about drinking heavily, and I do not drink at all. "Like a G6", "Errybody in the Club Gettin' Tipsy", "Swimming Pools (Drank)", etc.
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Date: 2014-06-17 03:21 pm (UTC)I'm still really stuck on this week's entry. I have a vague idea, but I don't know if a) I want to write another Raven story this week, and b) if it's a decent take on the topic. Argh. People have complained about every other topic this season, but this is just as tough or maybe worse for me!
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Date: 2014-06-17 04:08 pm (UTC)We had a tornado come through town here last night. Nobody got hurt, but in one neighborhood a bunch of roofs were ripped off houses and trees smashed through walls and such. I spent about an hour in the basement, waiting it out. So, uh, Universe? When I said I wanted rain? You didn't have to supply it with a vengeance. Yeesh. ;)
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Date: 2014-06-17 04:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-06-17 05:08 pm (UTC)I think people want to make that story into a Romance, and it isn't really that at all. More like mild Sci-Fi with a romantic element.
The narrator was a complete tool at the beginning, but somehow his desire to become more worthy of the woman in the story did actually force him to improve and mature, so in the end, I was okay with him.
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Date: 2014-06-17 04:59 pm (UTC)Topic: there are several songs I love the sound of, but hate the lyrics to. Right off the bat, "Sweet Home Alabama" (Gah!) and "Don't Fear The Reaper" come to mind, for completely different reasons.
There are also songs (often among folk or protest music from the 60s/70s) where the lyrics really resonate for me, but the music itself is boring as all get-out.
It wasn't until I heard Joan Baez and The Eagles covering a couple of Jackson Browne songs that I realized that there were actual, interesting melodies there. Jackson Browne just flattens out all music, to me. And Bob Dylan's shtick is intolerable, while his actual music? Can be genius in the right hands (or, with "Knocking on Heaven's Door," when he chooses to actually sing).
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Date: 2014-06-17 05:37 pm (UTC)But it's so stupidly catchy. And years later I sometimes don't turn the station when it comes on. /sigh
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Date: 2014-06-17 10:16 pm (UTC)There is also that bit where Orff was a bit of a plagiarizing schmuck who definitely had some morality issues during WWII.
The other thing that fits your question is Marion Zimmer Bradley. I loved her stuff when I was a teenager, because of her feminist take on things. Unfortunately, an article popped up last week basically stating that she molested her daughter for years, while remaining sympathetic to her pedophile ex husband.
Some say you can still love the work while hating the artist, but I don't think I can separate the two.
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Date: 2014-06-18 05:09 am (UTC)I feel similarly about Louisa May Alcott as what you mentioned. I found out that she viewed Little Women and her commercially successful books as basically writing what the market wanted, and what she really wanted was to write about people tripping out on hashish, and I haven't felt the same way about her work since.
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Date: 2014-06-18 11:32 pm (UTC)I'm a white girl from rural ohio, people pay me not to dance because I have no rhythm whatsoever and I LOVE gangsta rap.