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We were talking this morning about songs that completely go against everything we stand for - but are just so damn cool that we love them anyway!

This really goes beyond music though.

What are some of the things that if someone were to lay out the lyrics or themes that you would squirm more than a little bit - but damnit, you just love???

Date: 2014-06-17 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
I could watch MLB brawls all day and all night....

...and that's not a good thing, is it?

Date: 2014-06-17 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
And first.

Date: 2014-06-17 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis43.livejournal.com
O hai, did you ever send me that novella?

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Date: 2014-06-18 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aimercat.livejournal.com
Love it! go look at the Reds/Cardinals from a few years ago...that's one of the better ones and well. Yadier Molina is a little punk ass bitch

Date: 2014-06-17 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis43.livejournal.com
Damn, I thought I was gonna be first. Still struggling but I think I might be getting something together for my post. Hopefully, since my two byes went bye-bye when I quit. Oops.

Date: 2014-06-17 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
You had BETTER!!!!




Oh, and FIRST. Nanananananananana.

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Date: 2014-06-17 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
I got my entry finished up and posted during the wee hours of the morning... like 2:45 AM or something ridonkulous like that... *yawn*

But, I really like it and I hope everyone else does too! It was FUN to write!! Now I need a nap - although I'm at work, so I won't get one - and MORE STARBUCKS.

Also, 3rd or 5th depending on how one counts comments to comments. ;)

Date: 2014-06-17 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
I'm off to read it now! :)

Go on, nap at work.

And THIRD!

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Date: 2014-06-17 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaudy.livejournal.com
Definitely third, because the inter-commenting on the first two comments is the same two commenters. :D

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Date: 2014-06-17 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
Mmmmm....thinking about G's question. On a more serious note.

Definitely most Rap songs fall into that category, but there are plenty of novels and film that do, and it's always a moralizing prick during and after.

I just finished the terrible horrible novella by Joyce Carol Oates about a serial killer - "Zombie". Mmmm....I dunno. Is that really art? More art than say Harris' cannibal series...but is that entertainment? And that brings us to the tv outing "Hannibal" and as luscious and beautiful and psychological as it is....why do we want to watch that?

Or Cormac McCarthy's utterly brilliant "Child of God" or Nick Cave's "And the Ass Saw the Angel"? So much of SouthernGoth is questionably dark and disturbing. But I love it so so so much. Wrote endless papers focusing on it. Devour it.

Keanu Reeves' character in "The Lakehouse" when told by Bullock's character that she loves a sad sad book asks her so simply and without guile, "Why do you like that?"

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Date: 2014-06-17 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kandigurl.livejournal.com
Man, your answer was way more thoughtful than mine.

I never saw "The Lakehouse" but it seemed interesting. I've actually never watched/read any of the stuff you mentioned, probably because I know it squicks me out or people who might recommend it to me would know it squicks me out.

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Date: 2014-06-17 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickthehobbit.livejournal.com
I actually thought of Cormac McCarthy when I read this post. :)

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Date: 2014-06-17 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banyangirl1832.livejournal.com
Dark fiction speaks to an animalistic side of us, the side that has fangs and goes bump in the night. Since we can't excise those demons in polite society, we indulge them in books, movies, and tv. Because even the dark, sad stuff needs an outlet.

Also, Southern Gothic is one of the ideas on the table for this week's entry for me. Somehow.

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Date: 2014-06-17 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kandigurl.livejournal.com
Oh man...like, every single Ke$ha song.

I also find that I tend to love songs about drinking heavily, and I do not drink at all. "Like a G6", "Errybody in the Club Gettin' Tipsy", "Swimming Pools (Drank)", etc.

Date: 2014-06-17 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
Everyone in ortho doc's office knows my name. I find this amusing yet alarming.

Date: 2014-06-17 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beeker121.livejournal.com
For a while the folks at the local lab knew me on site because I was going in for weekly blood draws. It's nice to feel welcomed, but you start to realize there are places you wouldn't mind being a stranger.

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Date: 2014-06-17 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyfulfeather.livejournal.com
Heh. I am a generally nice, non-confrontational person... who loves a lot of hard rock, much of which includes murder and violence. Singing along with those at the top of my lungs lets me get that anger and aggression out without having to express it otherwise! It's cathartic.

I'm still really stuck on this week's entry. I have a vague idea, but I don't know if a) I want to write another Raven story this week, and b) if it's a decent take on the topic. Argh. People have complained about every other topic this season, but this is just as tough or maybe worse for me!

Date: 2014-06-17 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
I love Alice Cooper, but you wouldn't think it to look at me! :)

Date: 2014-06-17 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com
I love "I can't decide" by Scissor Sisters (http://youtu.be/OFKUnfwBPTU). And it's uh... not what most people would call a nice song (though it's certainly upbeat!). I sometimes get Looks when I'm driving with the windows down and happily singing along at top volume.

We had a tornado come through town here last night. Nobody got hurt, but in one neighborhood a bunch of roofs were ripped off houses and trees smashed through walls and such. I spent about an hour in the basement, waiting it out. So, uh, Universe? When I said I wanted rain? You didn't have to supply it with a vengeance. Yeesh. ;)

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Date: 2014-06-17 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickthehobbit.livejournal.com
The Time-Traveler's Wife. I go back and forth on it but either way oh dear.

Date: 2014-06-17 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com
It definitely held my attention (the book more than the movie).

I think people want to make that story into a Romance, and it isn't really that at all. More like mild Sci-Fi with a romantic element.

The narrator was a complete tool at the beginning, but somehow his desire to become more worthy of the woman in the story did actually force him to improve and mature, so in the end, I was okay with him.

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Date: 2014-06-17 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com
All right, I actually found an idea yesterday and started writing it! For such an great topic, I was really stumped for _days_ as to how to personally tackle it, but yesterday's bike ride surfaced something. My time at the gym on vacation? No-- I'm always reading books, and no brainstorming is happening then. Good entertainment, but not creativity!

Topic: there are several songs I love the sound of, but hate the lyrics to. Right off the bat, "Sweet Home Alabama" (Gah!) and "Don't Fear The Reaper" come to mind, for completely different reasons.

There are also songs (often among folk or protest music from the 60s/70s) where the lyrics really resonate for me, but the music itself is boring as all get-out.

It wasn't until I heard Joan Baez and The Eagles covering a couple of Jackson Browne songs that I realized that there were actual, interesting melodies there. Jackson Browne just flattens out all music, to me. And Bob Dylan's shtick is intolerable, while his actual music? Can be genius in the right hands (or, with "Knocking on Heaven's Door," when he chooses to actually sing).

/hot topic
/sorry
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Date: 2014-06-18 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryl.livejournal.com
Bob Dylan writes very nice demos. (http://ryl.livejournal.com/857832.html) I stand by this statement.

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Date: 2014-06-17 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinnamongirl.livejournal.com
I remember when I first actually absorbed the lyrics to Brown Sugar by the Rolling Stones. Well, as a concept at least, not like the exact date or anything. For most of my childhood I would've ranked the Stones above the Beatles (but below Led Zeppelin of course), and it may even have been some Cracked article that pointed out the lyrics are basically about creepy young slave rape. I couldn't listen to it for months afterwards.

But it's so stupidly catchy. And years later I sometimes don't turn the station when it comes on. /sigh

Date: 2014-06-17 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
LOL, or how Honky Tonk Women glorifies whores in New Orleans. There was a radio station which played it every single morning at 7AM, and I'd turn up the volume the minute I woke. There was one time where I was singing the "tried to take me upstairs for a ride" without realizing I was loud enough to be heard...and then being asked "do you REALLY know what you're singing?"

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Date: 2014-06-17 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohelectricshock.livejournal.com
Every song by A$AP Rocky but I would be lying if I said I didn't know all the words to "Fuckin' Problems"

Date: 2014-06-17 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoptedwriter.livejournal.com
" I Don't Care!..." Fun, fun music. AW

Date: 2014-06-17 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redqueenofevil.livejournal.com
I have a couple. Orff's version of Carmina Burana. It is very sensual, but once you figure out what the lyrics are in English, you do one of these O-o faces. Specifically the tavern scene where a bunch of tenors and bases drop the N word without even realizing it, because it is in Latin.

There is also that bit where Orff was a bit of a plagiarizing schmuck who definitely had some morality issues during WWII.

The other thing that fits your question is Marion Zimmer Bradley. I loved her stuff when I was a teenager, because of her feminist take on things. Unfortunately, an article popped up last week basically stating that she molested her daughter for years, while remaining sympathetic to her pedophile ex husband.

Some say you can still love the work while hating the artist, but I don't think I can separate the two.

Date: 2014-06-18 05:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] finding_helena
Love Carmina Burana!

I feel similarly about Louisa May Alcott as what you mentioned. I found out that she viewed Little Women and her commercially successful books as basically writing what the market wanted, and what she really wanted was to write about people tripping out on hashish, and I haven't felt the same way about her work since.

Date: 2014-06-18 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryl.livejournal.com
Ha. I was just thinking of this the other day when I created a Bone Thugs-N-Harmony station on Last.fm. I wanted to go back and tell my 16-year-old grunge/alternative rock listening self "Hey self. Guess what? In twenty years you're going to not only like rap, but like old-school gangsta rap the best of all." My head would have exploded.

Date: 2014-06-18 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aimercat.livejournal.com
I LOVE NWA!!!! And I also love 2 Live Crew's "Nasty As They Wanna Be" for as derogatory as the lyrics are, they are just ridiculously comically to me.

I'm a white girl from rural ohio, people pay me not to dance because I have no rhythm whatsoever and I LOVE gangsta rap.

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