[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
I've been asking questions over the past couple of days, and I've decided to throw a few more of them out into the general public, just in case someone else was wondering. Consider it an AMA that I'm having with myself! :)

When is the Week 0 poll ending? http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/713877.html
Tonight at 9pm EDT

Is anyone going to be eliminated as a result? No.

Then why have it? Because it's good to get you into the habit of posting and seeing how things go before it "counts". Plus, it's good practice for me. As a bonus, people get another little extra insight into you to give them a "sneak peek" on what to expect.

What is going to happen after that poll is closed? The Week 1 Topic will be posted.

When is the deadline for that? Check the Topic 1 post, and I'll tell you there.

Is it time for lunch yet? No. Have a snack or something to tide you over.

When is the deadline for people to sign up? Monday March 17th at 7pm EDT. http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/711493.html

When people sign up, can they still write an Intro? Of course they can. They should probably post them to the Green Room of that day though, so that people see them. I doubt many people are going back to the Topic 0 post.

Why did you extend the deadline? Because I want more people to sign up. :)

Will you extend the deadline after that? No. Because after that people start being eliminated. Once the train leaves the station, it can't back up to let people on.

Why can't I post to the community? I assume that I'm not the one asking this, but rather quoting someone. Because I *can* post to the community! Really Gary, you're not making any sense! But assuming this is someone else asking that question - because only certain people have the ability to post something directly to the community: Myself and my assistant. The reason for this is so that you can actually find stuff and don't have a couple hundred people posting, covering up the official information. If you want to say something, the Green Room is the place to go!

What is the "community model"? No one actually asked this, but I was thinking about it in terms of the last question. You post your entry in your space, so your friends and people following your work see it. Then you post a link here. I post a poll and people from here go to your space to read and comment. Then they come back here and vote.

People come into the community from all of those points out there on the internet, hopefully finding new writers in the process, and then come back here to express their opinions on them. Which is why I don't like the concept of "satellite communities" that seem to come up every other season or so. ("why don't you...") Having a group out there just to talk about what is going on here doesn't make a lot of sense! Just come back here and talk at the central hub!! :)

"Everyone seems to know each other. Do newbies stand a chance?" - That's a quote that comes up every single year. In the past 8 seasons, 1 season was won by a veteran. Let me say that again - 1 season was won by someone who had competed before. A better question would be "Do veterans stand a chance?" or perhaps "do men stand a chance?" (one "co-won" a "mini-season" but never a regular one)

On the heels of the last two questions, there is always the dreaded "Popularity" question of "how do you avoid this becoming a popularity contest"?

I assume that you mean popularity to mean something other than "people like you", and since they are dealing with you online, liking you often means connecting with what you are writing. The internet's culture of being the "non-popular kids" makes that a really loaded word. So I'm going to go with the idea of "how to avoid it being friends just voting for friends"? There are a number of different types of voting throughout the season that change things up.

But the best way to avoid that is - Don't do it. Don't just vote for your friends because you like them. When it comes time to encourage people to vote, tell them about other folks that you like - and make sure you aren't just pimping the same people every week! Spread the love around, and encourage folks to find stuff they *they* love as well! Tastes are going to vary, and what you think is awesome might leave someone else cold. It happens.

But if you are doing your part to support what you see as "the best writing" and the person beside you is doing their part, then we're off to a good start.

"I'm not getting the comments/votes that I think my work deserve", what do I do? The first thing I'd suggest is making sure you are going out and commenting on *other people's work*. You love feedback. So do other people. If you don't go out and give it, it's a big crowd. People might not get to you. If you put yourself somewhere that they do see you though (commenting on their entries, having conversations in the Green Room) there is a greater chance that they will pop in to see what you are doing. The ability to interact with your audience and peers is something that every writer needs - heck, it's something that every person needs to have. It's more difficult for some people... but no one is the Green Room bites... well, OK... most of the people in the Green Room bite. Most of them ask for consent first though! ;)
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Date: 2014-03-13 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixejc.livejournal.com
Good morning! I've been reading and sporadically commenting.

Could the lovely, productive people who write recs identify yourselves? :) I find them so helpful to getting to entries I might not otherwise pay enough attention to.
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Date: 2014-03-13 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jfargo.livejournal.com
Good morning! And just in case I don't see you, good afternoon and goodnight!

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"First", maybe...

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Re: "First", maybe...

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Afternoon.

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Date: 2014-03-13 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jfargo.livejournal.com
Are you sure I can't have lunch yet? Is brunch an option?

And I bite but not when people are asking for feedback. Happy to help in a constructive manner when asked!
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Date: 2014-03-13 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimsonplum.livejournal.com
Still breakfast here...I can't speak for Gary, but I approve of brunch in general!

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Date: 2014-03-13 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banyangirl1832.livejournal.com
Third? Maybe? Awesome. I got through Tribe 1 last night and need to get through the next two today... wish me luck! Fortunately I have quite a bit of time to do it, seeing as I have today off. How are you all spending your days?

Date: 2014-03-13 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimsonplum.livejournal.com
Busy busy busy...started work before I left the house! And itching for topic 1...

I only bite on very, very special occasions, myself.

Date: 2014-03-13 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen todd (from livejournal.com)
I'm also itching for Topic 1!! ZOMG!! MUST HAVE NOW!! -makes grabby hands-

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Date: 2014-03-13 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecosopher.livejournal.com
I'm just popping in to say a quick hello and leave you all a loaf of fruit bread on the coffee table.

Had to go and get my identification verified at the post office today, and get my picture taken and can I just say, I look more and more like my grandmother with every passing year. Yikes.

Anyway. I am off to read some more entries before I head to bed. But first: shower.

Date: 2014-03-13 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reborn-spirit.livejournal.com
Ugh!
I have to make the dreaded trip to the DMV soon as my ID expired on my birthday.
If there ever were a justification for people's belief in a hell on Earth, the DMV would be headquarters.

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
I love having "conservations" in the Green Room - we plant rows of Cheetos and cookies, water them with coffee, fertilize them with bacon, and we've stocked the GR for another season!

make sure you are just pimping the same people every week! --I'm going to assume you meant AREN'T here. =)

When there are so many people - and a relatively short time to read everything (frankly, I'm not a fast reader), I tend to read through & vote in my own tribe first, then get to the other tribes as I have time. I finished my Tribe 3 last night, and was quite impressed overall. Good job, folks!

Date: 2014-03-13 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
and make sure you are just pimping the same people every week!

Heh. You beat me to it. :)

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gratefuladdict.livejournal.com
Voting in Idol is very much like Survivor jury voting. Some people will vote for their friends, some people will vote for the person whose strategy or skill they respect, and some people will vote for one person just to avoid giving a vote to another.

Each of us gets to decide how we will vote. Ultimately, I base my vote on which people I want to see stay in the game – whether because I think their writing has been wonderful up to that point, or I think they are going to write something wonderful next week, or they bring something else to the table and the community that I would hate to lose. Sometimes it is a combination of those things. Whenever I start to get too caught up in the question of who *deserves* to be here, I know that it's time for me to take a step back from my rabidly competitive nature and go back to having fun playing this game.

Date: 2014-03-13 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snarkerdoodle.livejournal.com
::nods:: Your description of how you vote is pretty much exactly what I do as well.

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theun4givables.livejournal.com
I am having one of those days today where I am forcing myself to actually TAKE CARE OF ME first and it's hard, yo.

In terms of reading and voting, I think I'm approximately halfway through my tribe and I have finished reading tribe 1. Tribe 2, unfortunately, isn't going to get read at this rate, buuuut I already have voted for those I didn't read when the topic post went up, in the first place. Because that's only fair. <3

Date: 2014-03-13 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen todd (from livejournal.com)
Good for you, un4givable (I love that, by the way!!)! You _should_ take care of yourself once in a while!

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reborn-spirit.livejournal.com
Good morning everyone!!!!!!
I just thawed out enough to pop in here. Seriously, two days ago, I wore sandals to work. This is Virginia!!!!!

Also, after reading entries, I feel like mine was woefully lacking. I thought I was being smart keeping my writing prowess close to the vest.
Boy was I wrong. LOL!

Date: 2014-03-13 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen todd (from livejournal.com)
Good morning, Spirit! (= You look very heroic in your mask!

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen todd (from livejournal.com)
I love you. <3

Date: 2014-03-13 02:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] momebie.livejournal.com
Friends, I have 280 lines to get through on this correlations spreadsheet by one o'clock today. I'm just telling you this, because if it DOES kill me and no one ever hears from me again then SOMEONE will need to call my future roommates and let them know I won't be available to move in in June. Unless they'd like to house my corpse, which might be fun.

Date: 2014-03-13 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reborn-spirit.livejournal.com
What's the spreadsheet for?
Takes me back to my Economics days.

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com
I'm in Tribe 3, so I've been working my way up from the bottom and commenting from there. I tried to comment on some as they came in, pre-poll; I wish I'd done more of that! I do apologize if I don't get to you before the poll closes, but I promise it's nothing personal!

Also, let me answer one of those questions: "Men stand a chance." (I'm not gonna say the odds are ever in our favor, though.)

Date: 2014-03-13 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenboo.livejournal.com
Unfortunately compared to the other seasons I have played idol, i am working this time around, so I will be in the green room either minimally or just at the end of the day.

So enjoy all the chatting and the cookies and the fun, and I will check in on everyone later!

Date: 2014-03-14 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis43.livejournal.com
Work is totally interfering with my Green Room time, too. Sadface.

Date: 2014-03-13 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoptedwriter.livejournal.com
Morning Green Roommates! I need to read more intros. I had a great start at one point. Everyone have a great one! AW

Date: 2014-03-13 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millysdaughter.livejournal.com
It is always time for a little something something to munch on!
After all, it **IS** five o'clock somewhere...
Here - at least I brought fresh coffee.
**hands out cups and starts pouring**

Date: 2014-03-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
I'd love a cup, thank you!

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baxaphobia.livejournal.com
Greetings from a snowy corner of Massachusetts!

Thanks for all those Q&A's Gary. Good info for new people and a nice reminder for those of us who've been here for what seems like forever!

We survived our audit yesterday here at the office. It's quiet today. So hopefully I can chat a bit.

Have a great day all!

Date: 2014-03-13 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Gary's great with the Q&A's, even if I do make fun of his occasionally amusing typo!

Glad you survived your audit - phew!

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
I'm on another train, heading down to Harlem today. It's cold. It's windy. I'm wearing my walking boots.

New folks: welcome! We old timers love your energy and enthusiasm and your new words! You inspire and delight. We together embark on mutual discovery. Write. Love. Play.

Date: 2014-03-13 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] binaryorchid.livejournal.com
Thank you for the welcome. As a first timer, I am really amazed at how many lovely people are around and it thrills me to read through so many amazingly written entries.

Today I even decided to start keeping a spreadsheet to have an overview of the votes and comments I am going to give.

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyfulfeather.livejournal.com
Argh. No reading or voting for me this week - between work crisis and panicked packing (movers coming on Saturday SO NOT READY) I have no time. Woe! I'll have to go read people's intros sometime next week, if I can.

Date: 2014-03-13 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] x-disturbed-x.livejournal.com
At least no one can leave doing week 0?

Date: 2014-03-13 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shay-writes.livejournal.com
Good morning all! I haven't had my caffeine yet, but I plan on rectifying it soon.

I checked in on my Animal Crossing New Leaf town yesterday and found out several of my favorite villagers moved out. I ran out on them a month ago to work on edits and play Bravely Default. I am a bad mayor.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Idol...but I think I'm ready for Topic One too. I was going to write a post for my journal about a book I'm reading and held back. "It might be a good post for Idol." Anyone else doing that?

Date: 2014-03-13 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
It hasn't happened to me yet this season, but yeah, that's been a common thing in my previous seasons. :)

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Date: 2014-03-13 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
Gary told me this discussion was going on, so I want to leave an additional pointer:

If you want people to comment on your work and engage with it, COMMENT BACK TO THEM.

Comment back. Start conversations. Don't just leave a short "thank you," especially if they have something more meaningful to say. Keep the discussion going. If people see you are open to talking about your writing-- even if their comment is a critical one (ESPECIALLY if it's a critical one)-- they are more likely to leave more frequent, longer comments because they know it will spur an interesting conversation. And other people might see a discussion that interests them going on, and jump in where they might not have before.

Most people are here for community in addition to the competition-- the community is PART of the competition. And community doesn't exist unless there are people there to build it. Idol gives you a HUGE opportunity to have community built around your writing, so take advantage of it, because it's the best!

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Date: 2014-03-13 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eska818.livejournal.com
sheesh, this is my first time, and I didn't realize we wouldn't get the first topic until the polls closed! I've been scouring the pages, freaking out and thinking I missed it. XD

-wanders around aimlessly for the rest of the day-

Date: 2014-03-13 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reborn-spirit.livejournal.com
I hear ya. I seriously thought I missed something.

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Date: 2014-03-13 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
I vote for writing, creativity and potential, in that order. :)

And speaking of writing, [livejournal.com profile] favoritebean requested I post the link when my spring movies article went online, so here it is:

Family-Friendly Movies to Celebrate Spring (http://voices.yahoo.com/family-friendly-movies-celebrate-spring-12567998.html?cat=25)

I also just had an article published about cures for cabin fever in suburban Philadelphia (with ideas that can actually apply to just about any location):

Cabin Fever Cures for Kids in Suburban Philly (http://voices.yahoo.com/cabin-fever-cures-kids-suburban-philly-12565827.html?cat=25)

And just in case you follow "American Idol," here's my latest recap, about last night's show:

'American Idol' Recap: Top 11 Strive for Marquee Performances (http://voices.yahoo.com/american-idol-recap-top-11-strive-marquee-performances-12568930.html?cat=33)

In the future, if you're interested in reading my articles, please friend my LJ.

Date: 2014-03-13 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
It's been fun and fascinating to watch this community build itself and come to life - akin to watching the circus come to town for a two-night run! Bravo & brava, Idol-ers!

Date: 2014-03-13 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaudy.livejournal.com
It is so, so true about commenting on other's entries and in the Green Room. I season 8, I very much noticed that when I started commenting less and participating in the Green Room less, I got way fewer comments on my entries.

That said, my friend [livejournal.com profile] waveform_delta almost never participates in Green Room or other community discussions, and he still made it pretty far in season 8.

Date: 2014-03-13 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snarkerdoodle.livejournal.com
I was hoping to get through the rest of the entries today, I'm mabe 2/3 done?) but I'm just not sure it's going to happen. Maybe in the early evening I can get through a bunch more.

Luckily it's just Week 0, though I'm going to have to set up a schedule of reading from here on out or something -- I really hate voting in a tribe when I haven't read *everything* in it. I feel like I may be screwing someone over (though it doesn't seem right not to vote at all in that case either).

Date: 2014-03-13 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] x-disturbed-x.livejournal.com
I try reading the entries as they come in. It's really the only way I can manage it.

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