Work Room - Week 26
May. 3rd, 2012 10:10 pmSome weeks are easier than others for you. Not just the topics, but getting the time to concentrate on writing. During intersection weeks, there are times when things just click between people and other times when they don't.
How do you take those rough patches and make them into something positive?
That's important after all, being able to use those hurdles as growth opportunities is one of the biggest cliches in the book! ;) So, obviously, there must be something you learn from them!
How do you manage to transition back into thinking about your entries as a solo act? Are there people that you have previously intersected with that you continue to use as sounding boards?
How do you take those rough patches and make them into something positive?
That's important after all, being able to use those hurdles as growth opportunities is one of the biggest cliches in the book! ;) So, obviously, there must be something you learn from them!
How do you manage to transition back into thinking about your entries as a solo act? Are there people that you have previously intersected with that you continue to use as sounding boards?
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:12 am (UTC)YAY FIRST!
Also - Gary, you scurvy rogue! Here I thought I was SO DAMN CLEVER preemptively nabbing an awesome partner before the topic post even went up, but noooo. Evil creature :P
ETA: Wait, are "firsts" even allowed in the work room? Or is that GR only? My lack of social skills, let me show you them.
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:43 am (UTC)But since you did a FIRST instead of a FRIST, you're not dead to me...
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Date: 2012-05-04 04:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-05-07 09:48 am (UTC)Now to think of new fun stuff to write.
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:13 am (UTC)Which of course means it won't happen.
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:15 am (UTC)It's really hard for me to transition back to working on my own. I do have people who've betaed for me repeatedly but they weren't always former intersection partners. My partner from last week has betaed for me a lot, though. :)
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:25 am (UTC)I feel a little...adrift not having a partner this week. I'm not sure how I'll transition yet. Possibly by annoying
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Date: 2012-05-04 03:01 am (UTC)Though you are not remotely annoying me. ♥ ♥
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:29 am (UTC)I *definitely* still talk with previous intersection partners.
As far as transitioning back into a solo act - that shit's tough, NGL. It's weird because I always hated group work as a kid in school, and still generally prefer to work alone on most things, but I find myself writing better, stronger pieces, and being much more willing to go out of my comfort zone when I'm working with someone in an intersection. IDK if it's because an intersection = an automatic sounding board, or because I've got another person's ideas to play with, or because I'm horrified at the idea of dragging somebody else down with me should I fuck up a piece, or some combination thereof, or something else entirely.
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:35 am (UTC)I've been *VERY* fortunate...
Date: 2012-05-04 02:42 am (UTC)My first partner and I had no clue how to work together -- the fault was as least as much mine as theirs, so *PLEASE* don't think that I'm pointing my finger. But since neither of us had a clue how to work together, we didn't even try: We each wrote our respective pieces without communicating or coordinating... and posted them when they were ready. The stories obviously had nothing to do with each other, so we never claimed otherwise. We made it through the week, so I can't say it was a *BAD* experience... but I learned nothing from it, so I can't call it a *GOOD* experience.
My second partner did try to coordinate with me... but that boiled down to them saying "Tell me what you're writing about, and I'll build my piece as an extension of yours." So they did all the real work, all the "heavy lifting"... and they came up with a very nice piece. I didn't have to do any extra work at all.
At first, this sounds like a *GREAT* partner... except since my partner did all the work, I didn't learn anything from the experience! So again, I'm not sure I can say it was a *GOOD* experience.
This season... I thought I was going to "screw the pooch" the first time Intersections came up. Granted, my self-esteem problem was going full blast at the time, but still: I had no idea what I was doing, no clue how to pick a "good" partner for me. But I did have one thing going for me: I've always been open-minded. So when my first partner pitched their idea, I quickly came up with a story both they and I could work with. And we just kept the lines of communication open, traded ideas back and forth. I'm still amazed how well it worked out.
My second partnership... it was a little rough in the beginning for both of us, as it took us a while to come up with ideas that we were both happy with that we could connect. OTOH, after the initial rough patch, things got *MUCH* better... because we were both willing to talk things through and make adjustments to our tales as needed.
My most recent partnership, I got to play in someone else's world. A lot of people have complimented me on my "world building" skills, but it was interesting and unusual for me to employ those skills according to my partner's rules... but again, the lines of communications stayed open both ways, and we were both reasonably flexible. And we were both *VERY* happy with the results.
Never having had a truly "bad" partnership, I'm not sure what to say about handling that situation, and what could be learned from it, though I hope I would try to stay positive. OTOH, I *KNOW* that I've enjoyed working with all three of my partners this season, and I absolutely would be willing to use them as sounding boards / beta readers / con crit advisers. They are each wonderful writers in their own way, and each brings something different to the table, so to speak.
I know my partners this season feel the same way about me. They've said so many times.
Re: I've been *VERY* fortunate...
Date: 2012-05-04 04:48 am (UTC)That being said, I've never had a bad partnership either. I've been lucky. Even when I've went with someone totally different than myself, or someone I didn't know... It's always worked out where they were some of my favorite entries. I've learned a lot from my partners and it's always been a good experience for me.
I don't want to compete for the "Longest Comment" title...
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Date: 2012-05-04 02:50 am (UTC)The one thing I'm tempted to take away from the intersection experience is beta'ing. My husband usually beta's my work, but there is definitely something to be said about having somebody beta who's also playing Idol. I've never gotten into it because of my work schedule. But I figure, if I can successfully intersect with somebody on the other side of the world from me, trying to juggle beta'ing with my work schedule can't be too difficult, can it?
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Date: 2012-05-04 04:45 am (UTC)I always bounce stuff off my beta reader #1 (who also happens to be my boyfriend #1 and intersection #1). I bounce ideas of Java through text, then in person and then he beta reads sections and we discuss. I don't know what I'd do without him, really. I admire him as a writer so much and would love to be as good as him one day, so having him as a mentor is invaluable. He's helped me grow already this season. Then
It's always a great experience though. In three seasons of Idol, I haven't had a bad intersection partner. And I've made friends with those I intersect with (and umm more than friends with one). So I loves intersections :)
Now onto this topic... How come my brain keeps going sexual? I have a funny idea but I so should not go there. But my mind is taking me there and nowhere else because it's my brain and if I'm not thinking about cannibals or evil child eating dolls, my brain goes into the gutter.
To answer Gary's question. When I struggle with writing, it's usually insecurity that gets me. When I'm insecure about something like work, I become insecure about everything and wonder why I have to be such a screw up. It's more annoying than Adam Levine's voice (sorry, heard that awful song about hearts and stereos and can't get that sound out of my head). But usually, I can find a way to pick myself back up by making myself feel good about something. It can be anything from dying my hair darker and feeling pretty to realizing I don't suck at something. Even kicking butt at a game will sometimes do it. Once I find my confidence again, it's all good for a bit. Though I'm always a bit... Hesitant. I wouldn't say I'm ever seriously confident, but I am getting there. I'm liking my writing more and more as I go on and get better. I know I'm not the best and sometimes that tears me down... But sometime, I realize that I have opportunities to get better.
Sorry, I just wrote a novel of a comment. I should be doing stuff. Like RL stuff. This comment was written from my phone as my Internet still sucks. So forgive any autocorrect mishaps.
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Date: 2012-05-04 04:51 am (UTC)For those talking about difficulty coordinating time to intersect, I was in a three-way intersection with two people on the other side of the world. And there was never a time when all three of us was awake at the same time. I'd wake up to 25 emails between those two, jump in and do 25 more with one before they signed off to go to bed and the other woke up again.
Now that was nuts. But they are great people, so it worked :)
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Date: 2012-05-04 11:05 am (UTC)Indeed! I've got to write this week's entry today, if I do it at all, because I'll be on vacation away from the internet for the next week!
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Date: 2012-05-04 11:47 am (UTC)I have no idea what I am going to write on this topic.
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Date: 2012-05-07 04:04 am (UTC)It must be nice to have a sounding board:)
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Date: 2012-05-04 07:26 pm (UTC)I'm feeling weirdly contrary, though. I had totally worked myself up and gotten excited about doing another intersection - it seemed inevitable, and I was all "this will be great" and I had a dozen different ideas for "closer" and now... yeah... I'm kind of feeling both anti-social and really wanting to ping around some thoughts with a new person and see how they come back to me different after passing through other neurons. And I have only vague ideas and no solid stories for "sated" which is a little worrisome. Hrm.
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Date: 2012-05-05 06:33 am (UTC)I'm off Monday! Although I do have to go get a prescription and allergy shots. But hopefully that won't take too long!
Also -- I have been meaning to PM you -- would you be interested in betaing for me this week? It's looking like I might do a spot of world-building, although this will be primarily character-driven. I can totally trade you betaing for yours. :)
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