Green Room - Week 25 - Day 1
Apr. 27th, 2012 12:12 pmLast night was fairly busy.
We had results: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561560.html
New Topics: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561685.html
And a Work Room http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561985.html filled with people trying to snag a partner for the new round of Intersections and a Top 50 icon, for those who made it, and want one: http://ljidol.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lji.s8.50.icon_.gif
Make sure to let people know if you are still on the market! There is no use in waiting until the last possible moment and hoping for the best!
It’s probably not going to be a surprise, but the drops over the last couple of weeks have been fairly disturbing to me. We have hit the TOP 50. I know real life has a way of getting in people’s way, but I’ve seen just as many people hit a bad week or two, over the course of 8 seasons, make the decision that they need to drop, and end up regretting it a week later, when things straighten themselves out.
After all, the “well, there’s always next season” only has one more shot to work out for you! I fully expect people, next time around, to be dragging themselves half-dead to the finish line! After all, it’s Idol> Everything else in life. Or at least, it should be! Right? Right!! ;)
Sometimes, life gets in the way. When that happens though – it’s especially rough on the people who ended up going just before you did. So, if you are at the end of the poll and you know “I’m going to have to drop next week”, you should sacrifice during that poll and let people who want to survive another day have that one more shot! Unless you just don’t want to do it. I’m not in your heads, controlling your every thought…. Or am I???
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There were two more things that popped up on the radar, courtesy questions people have asked me over the last week:
What is my opinion of all the anonymous posts?
I assume we are talking about the act of anonymous posts themselves and not the content of them. Because, obviously, some anonymous posts have content that are better than others.
I’m not a fan of anonymous posts in general. It’s rare when they are anything other than an excuse for cowardice, for not just coming out and saying what you want to say. But suddenly, when you have no accountability, you feel like you can speak up and say it. If you can’t say it to someone’s face – you probably shouldn’t be saying it all. Especially since it’s usually easy to tell who is who, given that personal styles of writing tend to shine through. ;)
That’s why I can say that I hate you all and that you are a bunch of smelly hippies in need of a good kicking! :P You would know that was me even if I didn’t sign my name to it!
Obviously, anonymous has its place – but that place is as far from Idol as possible. That said, people are going to do whatever they want to do in their own spaces and with their own time. But the more I see of this sort of stuff, associated with Idol, the less I want to put out in ACTUAL Idol content. So, people can sit around and discuss Idol anonymously, with not much actually happening to talk about, or they can actually interact IN Idol and talk about the Idol stuff that is actually happening.
Alts – are there still any left in the game?
This is kind of a subset of something that actually came out of an anonymous question in one of those threads. Which sparked an interest in people to ask me if there was still anyone with more than one account in the competition.
My knee-jerk reaction, as usual, is to turn it around and ask if people think there is anyone else left in the competition with more than one account? ;)
Because you have been reading each other for 25 weeks now – surely you have picked up individual styles! ;)
Just to clarify though– if there are, they only have until the Top 30. After that, if they are still around – they will need to make a decision on which one to keep. Also – they only get one vote. Even in contestant only votes – they can only vote with one of the accounts. So, basically, they are doing twice the amount of work for the same amount of “power” as any one individual in the competition.
It’s interesting though, seeing people’s responses to the idea. No one seemed to overally mind them in the beginning, but as things get closer and closer, and spots become more precious – there seems to be a shift toward my own original feeling on the subject, of not wanting them to take up the spot of someone else who wants to play! Finding that balance, where people get to flex their creative muscles, while giving everyone a fair shot, has long been a puzzle to be figured out. Hopefully, we get it right more than we get it wrong.
*lights fuse attached to a hand grenade and drops it into the Green Room*
I’ll be having a busy weekend –hopefully one that is as amazing as I think it is going to be (hanging out with my niece!) but if you have other questions for me, don’t hesitate in sending them. If you ask them here though, make sure to let me know, so that I don’t miss them! ;)
Hope your weekend will be rewarding! Or at least that someone will kick you, and make my weekend better! :D
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Happy Birthday to our own
bonnie_rocks!
We had results: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561560.html
New Topics: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561685.html
And a Work Room http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561985.html filled with people trying to snag a partner for the new round of Intersections and a Top 50 icon, for those who made it, and want one: http://ljidol.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lji.s8.50.icon_.gif
Make sure to let people know if you are still on the market! There is no use in waiting until the last possible moment and hoping for the best!
It’s probably not going to be a surprise, but the drops over the last couple of weeks have been fairly disturbing to me. We have hit the TOP 50. I know real life has a way of getting in people’s way, but I’ve seen just as many people hit a bad week or two, over the course of 8 seasons, make the decision that they need to drop, and end up regretting it a week later, when things straighten themselves out.
After all, the “well, there’s always next season” only has one more shot to work out for you! I fully expect people, next time around, to be dragging themselves half-dead to the finish line! After all, it’s Idol> Everything else in life. Or at least, it should be! Right? Right!! ;)
Sometimes, life gets in the way. When that happens though – it’s especially rough on the people who ended up going just before you did. So, if you are at the end of the poll and you know “I’m going to have to drop next week”, you should sacrifice during that poll and let people who want to survive another day have that one more shot! Unless you just don’t want to do it. I’m not in your heads, controlling your every thought…. Or am I???
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There were two more things that popped up on the radar, courtesy questions people have asked me over the last week:
What is my opinion of all the anonymous posts?
I assume we are talking about the act of anonymous posts themselves and not the content of them. Because, obviously, some anonymous posts have content that are better than others.
I’m not a fan of anonymous posts in general. It’s rare when they are anything other than an excuse for cowardice, for not just coming out and saying what you want to say. But suddenly, when you have no accountability, you feel like you can speak up and say it. If you can’t say it to someone’s face – you probably shouldn’t be saying it all. Especially since it’s usually easy to tell who is who, given that personal styles of writing tend to shine through. ;)
That’s why I can say that I hate you all and that you are a bunch of smelly hippies in need of a good kicking! :P You would know that was me even if I didn’t sign my name to it!
Obviously, anonymous has its place – but that place is as far from Idol as possible. That said, people are going to do whatever they want to do in their own spaces and with their own time. But the more I see of this sort of stuff, associated with Idol, the less I want to put out in ACTUAL Idol content. So, people can sit around and discuss Idol anonymously, with not much actually happening to talk about, or they can actually interact IN Idol and talk about the Idol stuff that is actually happening.
Alts – are there still any left in the game?
This is kind of a subset of something that actually came out of an anonymous question in one of those threads. Which sparked an interest in people to ask me if there was still anyone with more than one account in the competition.
My knee-jerk reaction, as usual, is to turn it around and ask if people think there is anyone else left in the competition with more than one account? ;)
Because you have been reading each other for 25 weeks now – surely you have picked up individual styles! ;)
Just to clarify though– if there are, they only have until the Top 30. After that, if they are still around – they will need to make a decision on which one to keep. Also – they only get one vote. Even in contestant only votes – they can only vote with one of the accounts. So, basically, they are doing twice the amount of work for the same amount of “power” as any one individual in the competition.
It’s interesting though, seeing people’s responses to the idea. No one seemed to overally mind them in the beginning, but as things get closer and closer, and spots become more precious – there seems to be a shift toward my own original feeling on the subject, of not wanting them to take up the spot of someone else who wants to play! Finding that balance, where people get to flex their creative muscles, while giving everyone a fair shot, has long been a puzzle to be figured out. Hopefully, we get it right more than we get it wrong.
*lights fuse attached to a hand grenade and drops it into the Green Room*
I’ll be having a busy weekend –hopefully one that is as amazing as I think it is going to be (hanging out with my niece!) but if you have other questions for me, don’t hesitate in sending them. If you ask them here though, make sure to let me know, so that I don’t miss them! ;)
Hope your weekend will be rewarding! Or at least that someone will kick you, and make my weekend better! :D
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Happy Birthday to our own
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:14 pm (UTC)*hey, how old is your niece anyway?
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:15 pm (UTC)I sent out a few messages, but I am, at the moment, partnerless.
I am flexible with fiction or nonfiction, and I could probably take either topic. I'm still recovering from surgery so I'll be typing one handed or using dictation software, which is a challenge, but workable. I'd like to get started pretty soon due to these challenges!
GOT ONE! YAY!
This morning I went to my surgeon for a followup. He told me that he was able to dislocate my shoulder in pretty much any direction with very little effort, and that in 12 weeks I may be allowed to hold something more than a coffee cup.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:17 pm (UTC)But it sounds like drama and I don't really want to get into anything.
Knowing alts have until top 30 IS interesting to me:) No, I don't have an alt but I had wondered if they have to reveal at some point or could compete against each other until the end.
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:09 pm (UTC)OH! Apparently it might actually be something I inadvertently started. Now this is a new level of cluelessness, because I apparently started drama without ever being aware of it and was still like "huh?" when it came back around. I win at life.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:23 pm (UTC)I know there are alts in the game. Not because I know who they are, but there are several suspicious journals and one that's been obvious to me since day one though I've never asked to be sure. It's just obvious to me :P
I had an alt last season and it's fun. I loved it. But I battled the guilt of taking real people that wanted to be there out. I have no bad feelings toward others who do it, it's just my personal guilt when I realized my alt barely stayed in one week while taking someone I respected out. So I sacrificed it the following week. If I ever did another, I'd likely sacrifice it early on for that reason alone. Like top 100 or something if I had made it that far. I don't think others should stick by that... I have no ill feelings against alts at all or anything. I just know I struggled when I took a friend out.
Totally off subject here, but I had a horrible nightmare again. This time my work represented a little clown doll with magic powers to bring any help needed, but that also ate children when it didn't feel like you tried hard enough even though the concept of "trying hard enough" was vague and undefined so the clown could eat the children regardless. WTF brain?
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:24 pm (UTC)I HAVE A QUESTION
Date: 2012-04-27 04:25 pm (UTC)Can you mention in the voting that people who go back in and edit need to click all the little boxes again?
I didn't notice any votes going missing this week, but I did the week before, and I don't know if people noticed and re-voted or not.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:41 pm (UTC)If you want me to do it, the best way to make sure is to send me an email a couple hours before the deadline!
I really wish LJ would get their act together on this.
They know about the problem, and are apparently working on it.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:30 pm (UTC)Unless you identified yourself -- which a handful of people did in the anonymous meme, via using their normal writing style. Unless those of y'all who posted anonymously deliberately mimicked someone else's style?
http://jem0000000.livejournal.com/362509.html
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:30 pm (UTC)cheers,
Phil
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Date: 2012-04-28 02:42 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-27 06:08 pm (UTC)I like the anon posts like the one I had on my journal recently because I have yet to ever have anyone do anything mean-spirited to anyone on them (I do one every year or two, non-Idol-related).
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:51 pm (UTC)I'm still waiting for my minivan to be ready at the dealership. They've been HORRIBLY slow in fixing my car, and I need it back, AND need to return my mom's van to her for our camping trip this weekend. I decided not to camp tonight- it's WAY too cold, and just rough it out tomorrow night, but mom's going out there tonight with or without me.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:52 pm (UTC)Obviously, some alts are harder to spot than others, since one of the reasons to use an alt is to try out other writing styles or genres, as well as to get away from one's friends list being an issue in the voting.
No major plans this weekend other than getting the oil changed in the hubby's car, in preparation for driving out to Arizona next Thursday - w00t!
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Date: 2012-04-27 07:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:03 pm (UTC)I have no niece. I have a nephew who is in Germany currently. He has triple nationality! Born in France and my sisters hubby is Austrian - which is Now part of Germany. They have lived for a bit in each country now.
His name is Veggo (like the villain in Ghost Busters 2)
I do not know if he is scourgeing but I can see it.
My sister works for Nikon but can't seem to hook me up.
I have ideas for both of the subjects - ones I got after I drug my mind out of the sewage and cleaned it up!
Not an easy task mind you.
Decades ago I used to hang out with hightekvagabond (there were issues) and my mind will never be fully clean again.
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:19 pm (UTC)I suppose I'll have to get a new userhead soon, because my current one is a brunette like me and would be inaccurate after I get my hair colored! :P
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:31 pm (UTC)Red hair is so much fun :)
Okay, back to work I go. Ugh.
And you said user head even, not icon.
Wow. I'm really out of it today anyway!
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:38 pm (UTC)I'm super excited about all the intersecting this week and am really happy about the ideas I've been bouncing about with my partner - I think once we've settled on something it'll be awesome.
Now I need to make a quick change and dash off to belly dancing - I've cleaned enough of the house in preparation for our housewarming party tomorrow that I can afford to take the time out, which is good - I haven't been to a class in two weeks because my teacher was on holiday and I do miss it. Maybe next season I might even post a video of my dancing ;o)
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Date: 2012-04-27 10:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:47 pm (UTC)I'm excited for intersections again! I've got a really awesome partner - armyandleg. And intersections are extremely motivating, because someone else is depending on you to do your best and get it done.
Sorry for typos - on my phone. Gotta go!
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:07 pm (UTC)I’ve seen far too many horror stories (like yours) from communities that encourage anonymous responses to ever go down that route. Most of the people will be responsible with it. But you only need a couple of idiots to ruin everything
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:58 pm (UTC)<IRONIC_LAUGHTER/>
I had written a lengthy piece on the whole "anonymous" thing, but my browser crashed and took the message with it... so I'm going to keep my opinions to myself this time.
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:23 pm (UTC)Re: Ugh.
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:05 pm (UTC)Am I the only one who's not bothered by the alts? I think they're kind of a cool concept. And if people don't get more than vote by having more than one journal in the game, who is it hurting? I do think it's cool that at the top 30, everyone has to have a single stake in the game, though. :)
Stupid work is getting in the way of my GR socializing today!
Edited to add: Um, I feel like I should win some kind of award for cluelessness here. Someone just told me the "anon" thing relates to the Anonymous and Honest posts, which, um, I actually started. I had no idea there was drama starting them, though! Mine didn't get any comments about Idol or any drama. So if I started drama inadvertently, I'm really sorry. :D
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:25 pm (UTC)*hugs*
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:36 pm (UTC)Here is the link to the *FINAL* episode of "SHOWMANCE MELTDOWN".
http://ellakite.livejournal.com/337902.html
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-27 07:46 pm (UTC)Fracking weather change last night set my asthma off horrid. I have not really slept and my bursitis is flaired up in my left leg.
I hurt. Took some pain killers but not much help.
This is so going to be my subject for my home game entry for -the closer -
My title for the other topic is going to be My home town.
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:52 pm (UTC)That takes the whole challenge from "Must find good approach to prompt" to "Must find approach that works with BOTH prompts and communicate with partner and collaborate on works, etc."
Basically, it means I know my weekend is trashed, and I'll likely be posting a story on Monday again. I prefer to at least be able to delude myself that I might post a story on Saturday (What? It's happened a couple of times!), but with an Intersection, no way...
I know what you mean about wishing people would drop out with kinder timing, but I also know that for a few folks, that "final straw" sometimes arrives rather suddenly and out of the blue, and it's often via very unhappy news.
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Date: 2012-04-27 07:14 pm (UTC)IT'S MY BIRTHDAY! I have now reached the last year of my 20's! \o/
I never understood the people who lie about their age because they don't want to own up to the fact that they are older. I say embrace it!!
Life is like wine: It gets better with age :)
~*::Meow::*~
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Date: 2012-04-27 07:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-27 08:00 pm (UTC)I think the anonymous stuff and the alternate journal stuff all ties into the same (fascinating) concept: identity, particularly online.
Because we have so many more options and ways of defining and presenting ourselves in online spaces, there are lots of tricky situations that arise which never would in physical interactions. How much do we reveal, and to whom? Where do we draw the borders of self and say "this is who I am HERE"? What constitutes a betrayal of trust when the lines are so blurry?
I think it's fun to poke these things and see what falls out from them - what sorts of things do people feel more free to say "anonymously" instead of behind their lj handles? How much anonymity is too much? And when we write with a journal that is not tightly tied to our primary identity, how does that change our writing style?
The last one is something I'm exploring - my primary journal name is my name, and my name is pretty damned unique. I wanted to try out LJ Idol in a space separate from that very well established identity and see if it helped me to feel freer with what I wrote and how I wrote it. That's not to say I've been sneaky about who I am - hell, I give out my True Name (tm) like candy - but I don't hold it against anyone at all for trying something different, for flexing their boundaries a bit with an alternate journal.
And now I've rambled way too much. I'll go take some more cough medicine now.
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Date: 2012-04-27 10:45 pm (UTC)I've said it before: I am not really bothered about alts unless they pretend to be someone they're not (ie, make up an entire backstory that isn't them).
And generally, if I'm not going to put my name to something, I'm unlikely to say it online. I might talk about stuff with M that I'll not mention online because I've seen enough drama to know it's best not to mention certain things. But my experience with bitching is that sooner or later, it comes back to bite you. So I just don't do it.
At first I thought Gary actually cared...
Date: 2012-04-27 10:52 pm (UTC)As for me, I can guarantee I won't go on to regret my drop... I regretted it before I even sent the email - hell, before I even TYPED the email. I hate that I had to leave this season when I was generally happy with what I'd written and how I was going in the polls. But I hope that what I can do now is set myself up better so that next season there will be less stress and less standing in the way.
Because by that stage I'll have a newborn, so obviously life will be so much easier!!
Hope you all have an excellent weekend. I'm going to be writing, cooking, and gardening. Three of my favourite things :)
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Date: 2012-04-27 11:12 pm (UTC)Enjoy those favourite things, they are my favourite things too.
Hope little bundle is growing well.
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Date: 2012-04-27 11:09 pm (UTC)Because of idol, I have relaxed the security a little on lj, after all we have to make parts public, still have some locked entries, but also due to lj have more friends I allow in now, it is scary, and there are times I have to rethink what I write.
As for feeling free to write in a different style, yes can see that would work. Have a male friend who just wrote a steamy book as a female. He has not started cross dressing, so know he just did it for the fun and the freedom.
Hope the cough goes soon.