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Last night was fairly busy.

We had results: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561560.html
New Topics: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561685.html
And a Work Room http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/561985.html filled with people trying to snag a partner for the new round of Intersections and a Top 50 icon, for those who made it, and want one: http://ljidol.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lji.s8.50.icon_.gif

Make sure to let people know if you are still on the market! There is no use in waiting until the last possible moment and hoping for the best!

It’s probably not going to be a surprise, but the drops over the last couple of weeks have been fairly disturbing to me. We have hit the TOP 50. I know real life has a way of getting in people’s way, but I’ve seen just as many people hit a bad week or two, over the course of 8 seasons, make the decision that they need to drop, and end up regretting it a week later, when things straighten themselves out.

After all, the “well, there’s always next season” only has one more shot to work out for you! I fully expect people, next time around, to be dragging themselves half-dead to the finish line! After all, it’s Idol> Everything else in life. Or at least, it should be! Right? Right!! ;)

Sometimes, life gets in the way. When that happens though – it’s especially rough on the people who ended up going just before you did. So, if you are at the end of the poll and you know “I’m going to have to drop next week”, you should sacrifice during that poll and let people who want to survive another day have that one more shot! Unless you just don’t want to do it. I’m not in your heads, controlling your every thought…. Or am I???

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There were two more things that popped up on the radar, courtesy questions people have asked me over the last week:
What is my opinion of all the anonymous posts?
I assume we are talking about the act of anonymous posts themselves and not the content of them. Because, obviously, some anonymous posts have content that are better than others.
I’m not a fan of anonymous posts in general. It’s rare when they are anything other than an excuse for cowardice, for not just coming out and saying what you want to say. But suddenly, when you have no accountability, you feel like you can speak up and say it. If you can’t say it to someone’s face – you probably shouldn’t be saying it all. Especially since it’s usually easy to tell who is who, given that personal styles of writing tend to shine through. ;)

That’s why I can say that I hate you all and that you are a bunch of smelly hippies in need of a good kicking! :P You would know that was me even if I didn’t sign my name to it!

Obviously, anonymous has its place – but that place is as far from Idol as possible. That said, people are going to do whatever they want to do in their own spaces and with their own time. But the more I see of this sort of stuff, associated with Idol, the less I want to put out in ACTUAL Idol content. So, people can sit around and discuss Idol anonymously, with not much actually happening to talk about, or they can actually interact IN Idol and talk about the Idol stuff that is actually happening.

Alts – are there still any left in the game?
This is kind of a subset of something that actually came out of an anonymous question in one of those threads. Which sparked an interest in people to ask me if there was still anyone with more than one account in the competition.

My knee-jerk reaction, as usual, is to turn it around and ask if people think there is anyone else left in the competition with more than one account? ;)
Because you have been reading each other for 25 weeks now – surely you have picked up individual styles! ;)

Just to clarify though– if there are, they only have until the Top 30. After that, if they are still around – they will need to make a decision on which one to keep. Also – they only get one vote. Even in contestant only votes – they can only vote with one of the accounts. So, basically, they are doing twice the amount of work for the same amount of “power” as any one individual in the competition.

It’s interesting though, seeing people’s responses to the idea. No one seemed to overally mind them in the beginning, but as things get closer and closer, and spots become more precious – there seems to be a shift toward my own original feeling on the subject, of not wanting them to take up the spot of someone else who wants to play! Finding that balance, where people get to flex their creative muscles, while giving everyone a fair shot, has long been a puzzle to be figured out. Hopefully, we get it right more than we get it wrong.

*lights fuse attached to a hand grenade and drops it into the Green Room*

I’ll be having a busy weekend –hopefully one that is as amazing as I think it is going to be (hanging out with my niece!) but if you have other questions for me, don’t hesitate in sending them. If you ask them here though, make sure to let me know, so that I don’t miss them! ;)

Hope your weekend will be rewarding! Or at least that someone will kick you, and make my weekend better! :D

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Happy Birthday to our own [livejournal.com profile] bonnie_rocks!
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noodledays.livejournal.com
Gary, I like your straight talk and just saying straight up what you think.
*hey, how old is your niece anyway?
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrelofrain.livejournal.com
I sent out a few messages, but I am, at the moment, partnerless.

I am flexible with fiction or nonfiction, and I could probably take either topic. I'm still recovering from surgery so I'll be typing one handed or using dictation software, which is a challenge, but workable. I'd like to get started pretty soon due to these challenges!


GOT ONE! YAY!

This morning I went to my surgeon for a followup. He told me that he was able to dislocate my shoulder in pretty much any direction with very little effort, and that in 12 weeks I may be allowed to hold something more than a coffee cup.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcasmoqueen.livejournal.com
I hope the one you got is me?? Because I just wrote you back! :-)

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] similiesslip.livejournal.com
OK, I'm lost. I'm not sure what the annonymus posts are or where they can be read.

But it sounds like drama and I don't really want to get into anything.

Knowing alts have until top 30 IS interesting to me:) No, I don't have an alt but I had wondered if they have to reveal at some point or could compete against each other until the end.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis42.livejournal.com
I kind of want to know where to see them... I don't like participating in drama, but sometimes I like to know what's going on. Usually, I don't know, though.

OH! Apparently it might actually be something I inadvertently started. Now this is a new level of cluelessness, because I apparently started drama without ever being aware of it and was still like "huh?" when it came back around. I win at life.
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiebelle.livejournal.com
It's funny you mention the RL getting in the way thing... I briefly wondered if I could get anything done this weekend with some stuff that popped up on my radar last night and other stuff. But I do know I'll never drop. I'm too stubborn for that. I'd sacrifice, but I'd never just outright drop because that's not me. And I'd be so sad to leave the game when it came down to it. RL stuff can shove it, I'm having fun in Idol dangit :)

I know there are alts in the game. Not because I know who they are, but there are several suspicious journals and one that's been obvious to me since day one though I've never asked to be sure. It's just obvious to me :P

I had an alt last season and it's fun. I loved it. But I battled the guilt of taking real people that wanted to be there out. I have no bad feelings toward others who do it, it's just my personal guilt when I realized my alt barely stayed in one week while taking someone I respected out. So I sacrificed it the following week. If I ever did another, I'd likely sacrifice it early on for that reason alone. Like top 100 or something if I had made it that far. I don't think others should stick by that... I have no ill feelings against alts at all or anything. I just know I struggled when I took a friend out.

Totally off subject here, but I had a horrible nightmare again. This time my work represented a little clown doll with magic powers to bring any help needed, but that also ate children when it didn't feel like you tried hard enough even though the concept of "trying hard enough" was vague and undefined so the clown could eat the children regardless. WTF brain?
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Date: 2012-04-27 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
Am I awful if I think your child-eating-clown dream would make a FANTASTIC horror story? Your brain may act WTF-y, but it does so in a very creative way!

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcasmoqueen.livejournal.com
I guess I missed all the anon drama too... With regards to alts, I say if they are able to write TWO successful entries a week, then good for them!

I HAVE A QUESTION

Date: 2012-04-27 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
*ahem* Do we let you know by PM or by yelling? ;)

Can you mention in the voting that people who go back in and edit need to click all the little boxes again?

I didn't notice any votes going missing this week, but I did the week before, and I don't know if people noticed and re-voted or not.

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
Well, my table can be commented on anonymously (as can the rest of my journal), but that would defeat the purpose!

Unless you identified yourself -- which a handful of people did in the anonymous meme, via using their normal writing style. Unless those of y'all who posted anonymously deliberately mimicked someone else's style?

http://jem0000000.livejournal.com/362509.html

Date: 2012-04-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dslartoo.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] xreesex and I have partnered up! Unless I miss my guess that leaves [livejournal.com profile] dblicher and [livejournal.com profile] beldarzfixon as the last two.

cheers,
Phil
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Date: 2012-04-28 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldarzfixon.livejournal.com
I've sent a PM to dblicher. Looks like fate has spoken! =)

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rattsu.livejournal.com
Just saw Avengers, still running around like a child hyped on sugar and I am not really a fan of any of the other Marvel superhero movies. But this was a proper one! The audience actually applauded at the end, which is VERY rare in Sweden. Also, stay until after the credits, as always.
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis42.livejournal.com
I hate the stupid anon community I'm aware of. When I started Idol, I was kind of worried that putting public posts out there would lead to people snarking my writing there. So far, so good on that front as far as I'm aware, but ugh. I don't follow it all the time, but I haven't seen too much Idol-related snark there, fortunately.

I like the anon posts like the one I had on my journal recently because I have yet to ever have anyone do anything mean-spirited to anyone on them (I do one every year or two, non-Idol-related).

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Date: 2012-04-27 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawchicky.livejournal.com
I might have a partner... still waiting to hear back from someone who asked me.

I'm still waiting for my minivan to be ready at the dealership. They've been HORRIBLY slow in fixing my car, and I need it back, AND need to return my mom's van to her for our camping trip this weekend. I decided not to camp tonight- it's WAY too cold, and just rough it out tomorrow night, but mom's going out there tonight with or without me.

Date: 2012-04-27 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Good points, Gary! I honestly don't know how people write TWO entries for Idol week after week - it's tough enough for me to just get one good entry in!

Obviously, some alts are harder to spot than others, since one of the reasons to use an alt is to try out other writing styles or genres, as well as to get away from one's friends list being an issue in the voting.

No major plans this weekend other than getting the oil changed in the hubby's car, in preparation for driving out to Arizona next Thursday - w00t!

Date: 2012-04-27 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrelofrain.livejournal.com
When I had my alt, it actually pushed me to do better work, I think, as I couldn't just write my first idea on the subject and be done. I had to really stretch to come up with two unique, fleshed out ideas.

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashgaelsonaria.livejournal.com
Aw, no place for home game entries? I will just have to bu er tell people about them once they get all written up.

I have no niece. I have a nephew who is in Germany currently. He has triple nationality! Born in France and my sisters hubby is Austrian - which is Now part of Germany. They have lived for a bit in each country now.
His name is Veggo (like the villain in Ghost Busters 2)
I do not know if he is scourgeing but I can see it.

My sister works for Nikon but can't seem to hook me up.

I have ideas for both of the subjects - ones I got after I drug my mind out of the sewage and cleaned it up!
Not an easy task mind you.
Decades ago I used to hang out with hightekvagabond (there were issues) and my mind will never be fully clean again.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] similiesslip.livejournal.com
Don't you mean, "Dragged your mind out of the cesspool"? ;)

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
Hello, Green Room! Today I have a hair coloring appointment at 4:30PM. I want to get my hair dyed some shade of red. Right now it's a fairly light brown. I used to dye my hair, and my dad kept asking me for the longest time if my hair is its natural color. Right now, it IS its natural color.

I suppose I'll have to get a new userhead soon, because my current one is a brunette like me and would be inaccurate after I get my hair colored! :P

Date: 2012-04-27 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiebelle.livejournal.com
LJ is mixing up icons on me again. I read this thinking it was similiesslip since you gave her icon on my view today. I was so confused and wonder how a flower could be a brunette!

Red hair is so much fun :)

Okay, back to work I go. Ugh.

And you said user head even, not icon.

Wow. I'm really out of it today anyway!
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Date: 2012-04-27 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com
I've felt for quite a long time now that if I had an alt and were in the position to need to make a choice between IDs, I'd sacrifice during a poll rather than just randomly, because I think that would be the nicer way to go about it - let someone else have one more week in Idol. My only fear about doing it before top 30 (assuming that I were to get within sniffing distance of such a thing) would be that my other ID would be voted off the following week, which would irk me somewhat!

I'm super excited about all the intersecting this week and am really happy about the ideas I've been bouncing about with my partner - I think once we've settled on something it'll be awesome.

Now I need to make a quick change and dash off to belly dancing - I've cleaned enough of the house in preparation for our housewarming party tomorrow that I can afford to take the time out, which is good - I haven't been to a class in two weeks because my teacher was on holiday and I do miss it. Maybe next season I might even post a video of my dancing ;o)

Date: 2012-04-27 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacq22.livejournal.com
Yes belly dancing please!!

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medleymisty.livejournal.com
I've had extremely bad experiences with anon stuff. It ruins the Sim community and allows bullying and hurt feelings and it just poisons everything. With that said - I think Idolers have handled it well so far. I do hope that it doesn't become a trend, because then I'd have to leave the community to protect my emotional health - which was harc won after being severely bullied in Sim Secrets, to the point that I'd have a panic aytack if I just saw someone reference the secrets. So yeah.

I'm excited for intersections again! I've got a really awesome partner - armyandleg. And intersections are extremely motivating, because someone else is depending on you to do your best and get it done.

Sorry for typos - on my phone. Gotta go!

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No to anon responses!

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Ugh.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellakite.livejournal.com
Who the hell came up with the phrase "on/off the market" to indicate whether they are still looking for an Intersection partner? I AM NOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BE BOUGHT OR SOLD!!!

<IRONIC_LAUGHTER/>


I had written a lengthy piece on the whole "anonymous" thing, but my browser crashed and took the message with it... so I'm going to keep my opinions to myself this time.

Re: Ugh.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
Well, if you were standing on top of the market to see better, that would be a valid interpretation that did not involve selling... although, of course, some of us would promptly end up in traction or something. I can fall off anything....

Re: Ugh.

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Date: 2012-04-27 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n3m3sis42.livejournal.com
...Anonymous posts? Man, I really do miss everything!

Am I the only one who's not bothered by the alts? I think they're kind of a cool concept. And if people don't get more than vote by having more than one journal in the game, who is it hurting? I do think it's cool that at the top 30, everyone has to have a single stake in the game, though. :)

Stupid work is getting in the way of my GR socializing today!

Edited to add: Um, I feel like I should win some kind of award for cluelessness here. Someone just told me the "anon" thing relates to the Anonymous and Honest posts, which, um, I actually started. I had no idea there was drama starting them, though! Mine didn't get any comments about Idol or any drama. So if I started drama inadvertently, I'm really sorry. :D
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Date: 2012-04-27 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jem0000000.livejournal.com
I like them, but I can also see why someone who is a friend of the main account might feel lied-to about not knowing they have an alt account in the game -- or someone who connects well with the secondary account and doesn't like the main account -- now that's an LJ soap opera waiting to happen!

*hugs*

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One last time...

Date: 2012-04-27 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellakite.livejournal.com
... Because it *IS* the last time:

Here is the link to the *FINAL* episode of "SHOWMANCE MELTDOWN".

http://ellakite.livejournal.com/337902.html

Date: 2012-04-27 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
Allergies/asthma/congestion are still kicking my butt. My abdomen is sore from coughing and I am literally tired of breathing in and out.

Date: 2012-04-27 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashgaelsonaria.livejournal.com
Omg. Me too.
Fracking weather change last night set my asthma off horrid. I have not really slept and my bursitis is flaired up in my left leg.
I hurt. Took some pain killers but not much help.
This is so going to be my subject for my home game entry for -the closer -
My title for the other topic is going to be My home town.

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Date: 2012-04-27 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com
Actually, regarding RL, the deadliest challenges have been the Intersections, and I can't believe we're having another one!

That takes the whole challenge from "Must find good approach to prompt" to "Must find approach that works with BOTH prompts and communicate with partner and collaborate on works, etc."

Basically, it means I know my weekend is trashed, and I'll likely be posting a story on Monday again. I prefer to at least be able to delude myself that I might post a story on Saturday (What? It's happened a couple of times!), but with an Intersection, no way...

I know what you mean about wishing people would drop out with kinder timing, but I also know that for a few folks, that "final straw" sometimes arrives rather suddenly and out of the blue, and it's often via very unhappy news.

Date: 2012-04-27 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonnie-rocks.livejournal.com
Hell GR! Wait... I'm around the Green Room 2 days in a row?! I'm taking a break from craziness today because...

IT'S MY BIRTHDAY! I have now reached the last year of my 20's! \o/

I never understood the people who lie about their age because they don't want to own up to the fact that they are older. I say embrace it!!

Life is like wine: It gets better with age :)

~*::Meow::*~

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Date: 2012-04-27 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com
I conked myself out on nyquil early last night and woke up late today to find intersection stuff going on. Whoa.

I think the anonymous stuff and the alternate journal stuff all ties into the same (fascinating) concept: identity, particularly online.

Because we have so many more options and ways of defining and presenting ourselves in online spaces, there are lots of tricky situations that arise which never would in physical interactions. How much do we reveal, and to whom? Where do we draw the borders of self and say "this is who I am HERE"? What constitutes a betrayal of trust when the lines are so blurry?

I think it's fun to poke these things and see what falls out from them - what sorts of things do people feel more free to say "anonymously" instead of behind their lj handles? How much anonymity is too much? And when we write with a journal that is not tightly tied to our primary identity, how does that change our writing style?

The last one is something I'm exploring - my primary journal name is my name, and my name is pretty damned unique. I wanted to try out LJ Idol in a space separate from that very well established identity and see if it helped me to feel freer with what I wrote and how I wrote it. That's not to say I've been sneaky about who I am - hell, I give out my True Name (tm) like candy - but I don't hold it against anyone at all for trying something different, for flexing their boundaries a bit with an alternate journal.

And now I've rambled way too much. I'll go take some more cough medicine now.

Date: 2012-04-27 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecosopher.livejournal.com
Oooh, if we know your True Name, does that mean we can control you like in the Inheritance series?!!

I've said it before: I am not really bothered about alts unless they pretend to be someone they're not (ie, make up an entire backstory that isn't them).

And generally, if I'm not going to put my name to something, I'm unlikely to say it online. I might talk about stuff with M that I'll not mention online because I've seen enough drama to know it's best not to mention certain things. But my experience with bitching is that sooner or later, it comes back to bite you. So I just don't do it.

At first I thought Gary actually cared...

Date: 2012-04-27 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecosopher.livejournal.com
when he was saying how sad he was that people were dropping out. But then I realised that every torturer needs a victim to feel whole, and if we were all to leave, who would he kick?

As for me, I can guarantee I won't go on to regret my drop... I regretted it before I even sent the email - hell, before I even TYPED the email. I hate that I had to leave this season when I was generally happy with what I'd written and how I was going in the polls. But I hope that what I can do now is set myself up better so that next season there will be less stress and less standing in the way.

Because by that stage I'll have a newborn, so obviously life will be so much easier!!

Hope you all have an excellent weekend. I'm going to be writing, cooking, and gardening. Three of my favourite things :)

Re: At first I thought Gary actually cared...

Date: 2012-04-27 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacq22.livejournal.com
We care, hugs.
Enjoy those favourite things, they are my favourite things too.

Hope little bundle is growing well.

Date: 2012-04-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacq22.livejournal.com
Can understand an alternate journal. That makes sense. I am on FB and have been on lj for about seven years, in that time have felt comfortable writing a sort of journal that bares my soul at times. I trust the friends I have made.

Because of idol, I have relaxed the security a little on lj, after all we have to make parts public, still have some locked entries, but also due to lj have more friends I allow in now, it is scary, and there are times I have to rethink what I write.


As for feeling free to write in a different style, yes can see that would work. Have a male friend who just wrote a steamy book as a female. He has not started cross dressing, so know he just did it for the fun and the freedom.
Hope the cough goes soon.
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