Green Room

Mar. 12th, 2007 12:10 pm
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
Welcome to another Green Room!

Obviously this is the place to talk about whatever you want to talk about, but I had a conversation the other day that I thought was worth throwing out there to get your opinion.

Over the last couple of weeks I've been letting contestants pick the topics, to keep things interesting and to get more people directly involved in the process.

So far I've been focusing on people that I *don't know*, and haven't had any previous interaction with, to keep things fair and quite frankly, in order to actually meet them and get a better idea of who they are and how their thought process works. (as much as you can get from an email and a selection of a topic at least.)

But it was brought up to me that this is unfair to the people I *do* know. That I might be penalizing them by keeping them out of the running for selecting topics.

I don't want to penalize people for knowing me, that fact that they have to know me is penalty enough! *g*

But I also want to make sure I am hearing some new voices who might not, under ordinary circumstances, be heard from.

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Date: 2007-03-12 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sera-bella.livejournal.com
Why not put up a poll where people can give you topic ideas, then pick from the ones submitted. It would give everyone a chance to participate, or not participate if they wish. It would also give you a list to work from for the remainder of the season as well.

Date: 2007-03-12 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spydielives.livejournal.com
I like this idea!

An alternative would be a screened comment entry. That way participants do not get a preview of potential topics to come.

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Date: 2007-03-12 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceansedge.livejournal.com
How about a simple draw straws.... toss all the names you haven't used yet in a hat and draw out one or two names...

Simple. Fair.

I mean sure you COULD cheat, but if the leader of the game cheats then there really is NO point.

It's just a LiveJournal contest, and nothing really at stake, so I can't see why anyone would think you wouldn't be fair if you said "this is how I'm going to do it." Besides, a little faith is good for out souls.

Date: 2007-03-12 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leilamae.livejournal.com
That's kinda how I thought he was doing it to begin with :)

Date: 2007-03-12 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jesterstear.livejournal.com
That's pretty much what I was going to say.

Date: 2007-03-12 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onyxblue1.livejournal.com
Wait just a minute here! "Just a LiveJournal contest"? "Nothing really at stake"?!? How can you say such things?!?

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Date: 2007-03-12 04:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tryslora
I like [livejournal.com profile] mzserena's idea. Another option is using some form of random number generator (webpage, dice, etc.) and using that to pick from the list of who is left.

Although the neat thing about her suggestion is that it might mean we get to write on a topic later in the competition that you liked and saved until then, but that was chosen by someone who might already be eliminated.

Date: 2007-03-12 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeritone.livejournal.com
Until you mentioned it just there, I had no idea what your system was for picking people to create topics.

Then again, I'm just glad I had a shot at it, and I hope people have fun with mine this week! ^^;

Date: 2007-03-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techempage.livejournal.com
Perhaps have some sort of random drawing about who gets to pick the topics?

Date: 2007-03-12 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
I'm not bothered how you pick topics, in general, but do have a comment on topics picked: Please could people stop picking things which people are likely to already have in their LJs !

This week's two topics, for example. One of them's so generic it's practically an open week and the other's an almost word for word match for one of those internet quizzes.

How about set topics more like "Why Kangaroos Hate Rachmaninov", which people will have to think about from a standing start ? (Though don't you dare use that one. It's a JOKE !)

Date: 2007-03-12 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techempage.livejournal.com
"Why Kangaroos Hate Rachmaninov"

Too late. He was secretly running a contest with this one and the first topic suggested would be the next topic! You win!

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Date: 2007-03-12 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzydog.livejournal.com
This week's two topics, for example. One of them's so generic it's practically an open week and the other's an almost word for word match for one of those internet quizzes.

There's enough internet quizzes going around, that ANY question of any personal meaning falls in that category. Lord knows, I've never been asked "What's the worst mistake you've ever made" on any of them. >:)

I much prefer open topics and ones with personal answers, as you'll get a greater variety of answers to read. If it's really specific, it's got a much better chance of being outside of peoples knowledge base or experience, and they won't care to write about it. The netspeak question had the "standing start" criteria, and go back and look at the response it got in comparison to other topics.

I think a mix of the two extreme ends keeps things fresh. I don't want to think deep on it every week, sometimes I'd like to just write and have fun with it. But I also don't want to drift every week with "open topic week", so you have to balance the two.

*tosses 6 cents in the can*

Date: 2007-03-12 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzydog.livejournal.com
In my view, picking the topic doesn't make things any easier, so isn't "favored" status in my book :) It'd probably make it harder for me, because not only do I have to be creative in coming up with the topic, but I also have to meet the expectation that I picked a topic I'd write a fantabulous entry for. At best, the person picking the topic has an extra day or two to ignore the topic before submitting their entry at the last minute :D

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Date: 2007-03-12 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudonymjones.livejournal.com
Why not just let me pick a topic?

Date: 2007-03-12 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzydog.livejournal.com
The topic would be "What nefarious plot could theevilbunny use to take over the world?", and that'd just make things too easy for you :) You need to work for world domination, if someone else gives you the plan you'd lose the satisfying feeling of meeting goals on your own.

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Date: 2007-03-12 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonabloch.livejournal.com
Oh yes! I am appalled and pissed off that Gary has not picked me to do a topic!!!! I am furious!! I am upset!!! I am livid!!!!

I am being ridiculous!!

Seriously? People are bothered by that? Sheesh, ya just can't win, can ya Gary? :)

AS for this week's topic...I rather like the "I believe..." one. It is open, true, but it also allows for more personal entries, which I prefer. I get tired of reading the (basically) same entries over the course of a week. I would prefer to read more interesting and person entries -- stories of your life that are unique to you and not to me.

Date: 2007-03-12 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jesterstear.livejournal.com
It allows for more personal entries, but when you're looking at a contest that will probably run about another 6 months, you're also running the risk of posting something that could have been used for a more specific topic a few weeks or a few months down the road.

Maybe it's just personal paranoia on my part, or the concern that after 6 years of hammering out lunatic rants on LJ that I'm going to start repeating myself. :-)

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And don't even get me started on wombats

Date: 2007-03-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
I frankly don't care who picks the topics, as long as you give me something to work with.

Would seem most fair to do some kind of randomizer (which I know has been suggested) either to pick who suggests or to pick from a smorgasboard of suggestions in the poll/screened comment idea.

And I always thought kangaroos were more into Haydn and Mozart, which could explain their enmity toward certain other composers. Wallabies aren't as picky, and thrive in nearly any orchestral setting, even pops.

Guess I should've voted, huh?

Date: 2007-03-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennifer-dunne.livejournal.com
Thanks for letting me play, guys. It's been fun.

Re: Guess I should've voted, huh?

Date: 2007-03-12 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bettybaker.livejournal.com
I'll miss having you in the competition! You were fun!

Re: Guess I should've voted, huh?

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Date: 2007-03-12 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onyxblue1.livejournal.com
Should there be something in the profile about plagiarism not being tolerated?

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Date: 2007-03-12 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebellibrarian.livejournal.com
I think it's nice to ask players to come up with topics but couldn't you solicit topics from everyone & then you would then have your choice of topics, people could submit as many topics as they can think of and it would be pretty easy for you to avoid always selecting your friends (or folks you don't know).

You could reward the person who submitted the topic - maybe give them immunity for the round where their topic is used.

Date: 2007-03-12 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bettybaker.livejournal.com
I like the idea of asking folks who aren't participating in the competition to submit a topic. If we are going to have contestants submitting topics, I like the idea of randomizing their selection. On the other hand, I liked your "middle of the pack" approach too.

Date: 2007-03-13 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imafarmgirl.livejournal.com
Maybe just work your way down the list and get topics from people who haven't given them yet.

Date: 2007-03-13 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhonawestbrook.livejournal.com
Hey....I wanna play!

Date: 2007-03-15 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordrexfear.livejournal.com
I am so split on writing about Norse Gods or Hello Kitty.

*sigh*

Date: 2007-03-15 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onyxblue1.livejournal.com
Norse Gods are your guilty pleasure, and you believe in Hello Kitty?

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