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A few words from [livejournal.com profile] clauderainsrm:

Icarus.

Some people flew with it, some flew right into the sun without hesitating (with their own brand of sun-proofing), and it apparently stumped a few into taking that bye dive into the sea.

But overall it also produced some really cool entries.

Before we get to them, the usual business to attend to of saying farewell to people who will not be making that journey to 100 with us.

Drops
[livejournal.com profile] 3circledsun
[livejournal.com profile] amyawesome
[livejournal.com profile] louiement


Bye-out
impoetry
esotericsmile

Goodbye to all of you, and thank you for coming out this season.

As for the business at hand, there were 2 people who came into the competition from Second Chance Idol this week, and some minor tweaking of the tribes. Other than that, most people stayed where they were.

The lowest vote-getter from each tribe will be eliminated. As usual.

So make sure that, if you like the entry, you vote for them! With things are tight as they tend to get around here, every single vote of support counts! So make sure to let other people know if you see something great that isn't getting the response you think it should be receiving!

The poll will be open until Tuesday Jan 25th at 9pm EST.

Good luck to everyone!








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Date: 2011-01-22 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiebelle.livejournal.com
Aww at the drops and bye-outs! I added [livejournal.com profile] 3circledsun as a friend and I really like that guy! I didn't get a chance to know the others and that makes me sad. I know and respect [livejournal.com profile] impoetry feom last season, but had hoped to get to know him more this season! I hope they all home game it!

I clicked on the poll before Gary voted....seeing all those 0's was weird and depressing. I'm glad he does that :)

Date: 2011-01-22 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
Ack, down to four tribes!

Date: 2011-01-22 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
We had 4 tribes last week too. :)

Date: 2011-01-22 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creature-girl08.livejournal.com
Definitely a bummer to see people bye out or have to drop. Hope we see ya all around in the home game.

Well, here we go again.

Date: 2011-01-22 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrkittn.livejournal.com
Five more gone? *sadness*

Date: 2011-01-22 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com
D'OH! That's right!

:slaps forehead:

:crawls under table:

Date: 2011-01-23 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelic-mystic.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness. I just read my tribe. Very ver tight this week.

Hey, Gary, can one enter SCI upon elimination from the main game or is the deadline past for it?

Date: 2011-01-23 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsrachelholmes.livejournal.com
im wondering the same thing. i hope so because then being eliminated wont be so bad :)

Date: 2011-01-23 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelic-mystic.livejournal.com
This is my third and honestly the furthest I've ever gotten at all. I'm seriously scared. The story is taking on a life of it's own and my Muse is getting a little pushy.

Date: 2011-01-23 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com
Gary's already said not, so the other option would be to have words with one of the people who have a re-enter the game token.

Date: 2011-01-23 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com
What, that some people ask their friends list to vote later than others?

Date: 2011-01-23 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweeny-todd.livejournal.com
The votes are being very close aren't they!

Date: 2011-01-23 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com
I'm just writing to you everywhere from my phone for the sake of it now ;)

Date: 2011-01-23 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawchicky.livejournal.com
Gary said no, once the deadline passed for SCI sign ups that was it. I think SCI was only meant to run short term, so he had to limit how many people could play.

Date: 2011-01-23 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenboo.livejournal.com
SCI sign ups are closed. No one else can join. Once eliminated there is achance someone with the power can bring you back

Date: 2011-01-23 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenboo.livejournal.com
Sign ups are closed for SCI I am sorry to say

Date: 2011-01-23 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beeker121.livejournal.com
I hope [profile] snarkerdoodle doesn't mind, but I miss his/her (ack, I realized I have no idea!) numbers comment a lot and know s/he can't do it from a plane so I am borrowing it for the week. In case anybody else was curious too...

"The numbers from this week, from just counting up the tribe lists in this post.

This list shows the number of people in the tribe and then the count of 'live' entries and byes within those tribes:

Tribe 1 -- 20 people (17 live entries, 3 byes)
Tribe 2 -- 30 people (26 live entries, 4 byes)
Tribe 3 -- 30 people (25 live entries, 5 byes)
Tribe 4 -- 26 people (21 live entries, 4 byes)


And then, the tribes in ascending order according to number of live entries:

Tribe 1 -- 17 live entries
Tribe 4 -- 21 live entries
Tribe 3 -- 25 live entries
Tribe 2 -- 26 live entries


Total number of participants (from these tribe listings): 106"

All numbers changed to reflect this week, but I copied the verbiage directly over.

Date: 2011-01-23 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldofcharlie.livejournal.com
One of those folks but not for those reasons...

it's really a timing issue - I usually don't spend much time online over the weekend, which leaves Mondays and Tuesdays to read/comment and vote...

Usually I ask for folks on my flist to read/vote Monday/Tuesdays cause well that's when I'm reading/commenting/voting myself..
Edited Date: 2011-01-23 11:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-24 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com
Well that's kind of my point really. That there's no real need to suggest shenanigans or that someone is a weaker writer, especially if they're getting more votes. There's all sorts of reasons why the totals end up very different by the end of a few days of voting compared to the beginning. Some people just like being strategic and waiting until their vote really counts. I know I usually don't do any kind of suggestions or mention of the poll until it's been up for a few days and I can see who I think might need some support.

Date: 2011-01-24 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelic-mystic.livejournal.com
Thank you to everyone who clarified that. I should have put a qualifier at the end like "LOL" I wasn't serious. I knew they were closed and if I get eliminated I'm done for this season. I was just saying that cause I am really afraid that I'm going to bite it this time.

Date: 2011-01-24 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com
It's LJ. Writing is how we make friends here, especially new ones. So although the argument over "it's only f-lists that matter and it's a popularity contest really" will never end, the truth of the matter is that if your writing is strong enough, it'll win out regardless. The further in the contest you go, the more people resent those they perceive to be coasting on f-list support and eventually backlash hits, so it all cancels out. But one of the reasons I signed up alts to compete this time round was to disprove the perception that it's all about friend support and so far, my feelings on the matter seem to be pretty much borne out.

If your writing is good enough, it'll survive the polls for many, many weeks to come.

Date: 2011-01-24 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hammaboo.livejournal.com
So, doing my own estimation math, 106 with -4 (vote outs this week) +2 (SCI) -5 (est. byeouts/drops based on this week)... The tally could be under 100 after the poll closes? EEP!

Date: 2011-01-24 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beeker121.livejournal.com
I think SCI is going to bring us 3 this week, but yes, we're getting mighty close to the realm of contestants numbering in only the two-digits.

Date: 2011-01-24 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeymichaels.livejournal.com
Well, as Gary mentioned, individual taste regarding quality of entries varies from reader to reader.

That said, one way that some writers who lean heavily on their friends lists get eliminated is during "contestants only" weeks or "gatekeeper" weeks. To whit, if your support is genuinely from outside of the contest, you have to get lucky to make it through those weeks.

And, hey, in regards to the gatekeeper week, you can have a ton of support within the contest and if the gatekeepers just aren't all that in to your work, you're out of luck.

In regards to the popularity contest argument, well, that is true even if people are voting for a writer because they like their work - it just happens that its the writing that makes the person popular, know what I mean? There's really no way to separate "person getting votes because people think they're a cool person" from "people getting votes because people they're a cool person because of their writing." Those two sets of people are all of us anytime anyone votes for us.

There are so many things beyond our control in this sort of contest. The things within our control including our own entries, our comments, our votes and our choice of icons. Once I accepted that last season, I became happy for the people who survived and sympathetic with the people who were eliminated no matter who they were from week to week.

That is today's tl;dr response. Tune in tomorrow when I write a lengthy piece about catfish.
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