[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therealljidol
Fortunately, I waited to mention LJ's newest promotion until Hitler was brought into it. You know you are having a good, informative discussion on an important issue when someone brings up Hitler!

Hitler is the Ceiling Cat of Internet fights, he sees all and he solves every problem! When you have nothing else in your argument tank, just pull out "This is just like Hitler" and things will magically make sense again.

A close second (IMO - YMMV) is slavery. Comparing an privately owned company's decision to donate to a charitable organization is exactly like them supporting slavery. (If I have to point out that I'm being sarcastic here, I am going to take away your right to be on the internet card. Don't make me come down there and do that. I can turn this car around right now, and then no one will get ice cream!)

Then again, when the charitable organization is Planned Parenthood and the privately owned company is Livejournal, you had to know there were going to be some "interesting" responses.

I imagine the same people upset with this due to Planned Parenthood's involvement with abortions will soon be moving on to protest Wal-Mart for selling electronics. Because it's about the same share of the business.

There are certainly important issues involved with the "Pro-Choice and Pro-Life" debates, and I doubt that people will come to any real agreement any time soon on the "when does life begin" conversation. Just from today, it seems that it turned into "baby murdering Hitlers" on one side to "the founding fathers were racists" on the other. Where any of this fits into the discussion about women's reproductive health makes as much sense to me as why there is a conversation going on about women's reproductive health in the first place, seems like a no-brainer to give as much access as possible to as much as is needed. *shrug* What do I know?

What I DO know is that Livejournal is having a donation drive: http://theljstaff.livejournal.com/5366.html
I know that a LOT of the people reading this already know about it, because I saw it on our Friends List first, and figured it was something important enough to comment on.

I also know that given all of the hits that LJ has taken over the last couple of years, supporting an issue that has such wide support among the general base (even if it might alienate some people in the process, who don't like that organization) is a great PR move. Kudos to whoever came up with the idea, From a PR standpoint, it gets people reposting your branding and in some cases, your actual post. Which is never a bad thing from a marketing perspective.

Most of all though, I know that LJ IDOL is endorsing one thing, and one thing only - the current poll, which is closing later today: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/562742.html

If someone that you love needs extra care, don't take it to Planned Parenthood, they will just look at you like you've gone crazy - instead, let people know if they are missing out on a hidden gem of an entry!!

Date: 2012-05-03 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noodledays.livejournal.com
hey can I do it twice in one (of my) day(s)? *omigosh, I can - FRIST.

(should I be embarrassed I'm managing this as often as I am?)
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Date: 2012-05-03 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notodette.livejournal.com
I would have liked to take first this time if only to say how awesome it is that LJ supports women's health, and how even more awesome the comments in that thread are.

Date: 2012-05-03 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noodledays.livejournal.com
awww if I'd have known, I swear I would have let you have it.

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Date: 2012-05-03 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickthehobbit.livejournal.com
...oof.

I will warn people: if you care about Planned Parenthood, I'd suggest you DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS OVER THERE.

Date: 2012-05-03 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notodette.livejournal.com
I thought the supportive comments really outdid the other side, which is why I really liked them.

The other side is looking...frantic and not too good right now. (At least to me.)

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Date: 2012-05-03 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] similiesslip.livejournal.com
LOL to "LJ Idol is endorsing one thing"

It's 11:28 PM here. I'm tired. My kids have 19 more school days left (a little less than 4 weeks.)

This is good and bad. No more hauling them out of bed so early in the summer but also, I need to plan some things for them to do. Swim team will be one, I hope.

Date: 2012-05-03 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldarzfixon.livejournal.com
While we are dealing with some serious issues both on- and off-line, I can't help but point out one of the most vital facts in this Green Room post is that according to the third paragraph, THERE IS ICE CREAM!

...and after dessert, I'm headed off to bed...

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Date: 2012-05-03 04:32 am (UTC)
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I liked halfshellvenus and kickthehobbit's intersection this week. They both did a lovely job. :)

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Date: 2012-05-03 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiebelle.livejournal.com
I have several favorites :)

Alien-infinity and ellakite, Jem and Yachiru, Medleymisty and armyandleg, copyright1983 and lrig-rorrim... There's lots of good stuff this week for sure.

I've seen some of the comments on the PP issue. I am very passionate about reproductive health issues and while I was in college, I used to go to PP for UTI's and other issues that had nothing to do with sex or birth control. When I left my ex and had no job, I went back because I had severe abdominal pains and they treated me for free. So support PP? Heck yeah. And trust me, I have more personal stories I could share too.

But on to happy stuff. Java is here and we had Chinese takeout and watched Survivor and now Criminal Minds. Great night :)

Date: 2012-05-03 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
I super-agree with the first pair on your rec list! ;)

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Date: 2012-05-03 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
1. People are saying stupid, opinionated things on the internet? I am shocked. Shocked, I say!
2. You are cracking me up lately with the Green Room discussion topics. This is 3 days in a row. I think we need to know more about what happened this weekend.
3. I made a new year's rest-of-my-life's resolution to avoid teh drama and brouhahas as much as possible.
4. I just love that word brouhaha.
5. No idea what is up with the numbering. Am just doing it.
6. I want Ice cream.

Date: 2012-05-03 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashgaelsonaria.livejournal.com
Your prioritizing of the comments is a tad off. I would think number six would be the most important and I like the word Lithargic.
I do not mix it up with the life/choice thing its two groups arguing two things. The choice argument is - you do not have the right to force your beliefs on others. The life argument is I believe it's murderer you sick evil people so it should be banned.
I must now shut window - the heavy cool wind and noises say a storm has arrived.

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Date: 2012-05-03 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rattsu.livejournal.com
I am no awake yet! But if I comb my fringe sideways I can sort of look like Hitler, which I figured out by accident this morning.

Date: 2012-05-04 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] similiesslip.livejournal.com
Interesting hair observation:)

Date: 2012-05-03 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
DAMN, that comments section is an effin' Political Flamewar Bingo Card. Racism debate? CHECK! Abortion debate? CHECK! Slavery comparison? CHECK! Sexism catfight? CHECK! Holocaust comparison...BINGO...er..GODWIN!

Yeah, this is me right now:
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LOL geez...

All of that aside though, I'm giving a bigtime high five to LJ for the PP donation drive, and as an act of love, compassion, and selfless good will, I'm tempted to show my support by generously purchasing some of those v-gifts to put on the profile pages of the more vocal anti-choice peeps wanking it up in that announcement page.

Date: 2012-05-03 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butterbuns.livejournal.com
ALL DAY I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>.> And sometimes I am reminded just how alike we are, because I was totally the one who went and did that, where the two of them on the first page were like "oh I got a gift." I do <3 that you can send them anon, and DO NOT LOVE that you can't use LJ tokens for them. You fuckers already have my money, now let me use them, dammit.

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Date: 2012-05-03 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
I accidentally took a late-night "nap" and woke up feeling icky and groggy. My brain is thus in no condition to contribute to any serious political-type conversation. I tend to shy away from those sometimes out of fear of saying the wrong thing, too.

Ugh, why do I fail at sleeping so badly?

Date: 2012-05-03 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
I think we should debate the political implications of you failing at sleep :P

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Date: 2012-05-03 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathrynrose.livejournal.com
Why is it, when we have these (for the 'mericans) late night GRs, we have allll this conversation this time of the evening, but when we have the morning GRs, we don't have late night conversation on those posts?

i mean, if people are around to talk at this time of night, aren't they around regardless of when the post was posted?

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Date: 2012-05-03 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butterbuns.livejournal.com
Ech, I know when I come into a post late, I generally don't comment because it basically feels like the conversation's already over.

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Hey, Gary! You watchin this?

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Date: 2012-05-03 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashgaelsonaria.livejournal.com
A poll is closing? Were will all the cats go? Dancing will have to be done on laps soon. Chaos sweet glorious chaos.
Beyond that I shall have to consult my crystal screen to assertain who if anyone needs help. I'm psychic you know, or is that psyco I get them mixed sometimes. I do have a magic device that allows me to peer into the vertual universes known as the Internet - I created it myself.
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Date: 2012-05-03 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecosopher.livejournal.com
It's just one of those times where I shake my head and say, "what?" a lot. I'd like to say that 'in this day and age' I can't believe it's still something that needs to be discussed, but when I start using phrases like 'in this day and age', apparently I sound like a cranky old woman. :D

Aaaaanyway.

I'm fried from having an hour and a half of meltdowns from all three children as we tried to get them to bed. Sheesh. It's only 8pm and after that, I'm ready for bed, myself!

On the plus side, I baked bread. Yum. And tomorrow is Friday, which is so overdue it's not funny... six hours without children (not counting the foetus, obviously) and I shall enjoy every minute.

I'm loving the intersections this week. People have tried some new and interesting things and it's been great to read.

Date: 2012-05-03 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawchicky.livejournal.com
You can have ice cream for breakfast right? Just don't tell my kids. They'll want to do that every day.

The stress started early for me this morning. I'm TOTALLY not in the mood. AND it looks like I'm at the bottom of the poll. I'm trying not to look, but it keeps drawing me back in.

Date: 2012-05-03 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
it keeps drawing me back in.

The Idol poll has a way of doing that, doesn't it?

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Date: 2012-05-03 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrkittn.livejournal.com
Ice cream for breakfast, yay! We used to get to do that on the last day of vacation, when we'd rent a beach house and had to clear out the fridge when we left. Some things could survive the 15 hour drive home, but the ice cream had to be eaten! Off-LJ, though, I'm drinking coffee and wishing my husband hadn't bought the wrong yogurt, because I'd like some but the stuff he got is ICKY.

I hadn't seen the comment thread on the PP issue and it sounds like something I'm staying far, far away from.

On the subject of the poll, I haven't nearly finished reading yet, or voted, so I'm totally open to bribery suggestions regarding who might need more love...

Date: 2012-05-03 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com
Everybody knows that in Jewish families a fetus is a fetus until it graduates from medical school. Geez!

Hello from the road! I got to bed around the time this was posted, woke up around 5am, got the car packed up, and hubby and I got on the road around 6:30 this morning, driving leisurely towards the AZ vicinity. We stopped for breakfast at Frisch's and are now in Indiana on our way to St Louis, MO to go up into the arch. Woot!

Date: 2012-05-03 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
Everybody knows that in Jewish families a fetus is a fetus until it graduates from medical school. Geez!

Coming from a Jewish family myself, this made me laugh out loud, literally. :)

Date: 2012-05-03 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
I need to write a preview article for "The Avengers." I'm thinking of writing a "So You Want to be a Super Hero" article. What are some broad categories I can explore (i.e. powers, costume)? Also any suggestions of specific characters/movies to reference?

Date: 2012-05-03 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
My first thought was about how telepathy wouldn't be as cool as it sounds because thoughts don't come in complete, easy-to-read sentences, and human minds can be, ah, cesspools.

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Date: 2012-05-03 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
A brief look at the poll suggests [livejournal.com profile] copyright1983 and [livejournal.com profile] lrig_rorrim's Intersection could use a lot more love. Theirs was awesome; go check it out. :)

Date: 2012-05-03 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com
Awww, thank you! I'm going to write up a rec list when I get back from election training (yet another primary this Tuesday!). Here's a spoiler: your name is totally gonna be on it, 'cause yours and [livejournal.com profile] ellakite's was really well done!

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Date: 2012-05-03 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alien-infinity.livejournal.com
If anybody's still around, I made a rec list (http://alien-infinity.livejournal.com/222419.html). :)

Date: 2012-05-03 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com
Hitler is the Ceiling Cat of Internet fights

Well, Gary clearly won this round.

But wait. He won it by mentioning Hitler. D'OH! {Begin Conundrum}

Where is the ice cream? I can't even smell it!

Date: 2012-05-03 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com
Can we declare Godwin's law on behalf of Ceiling Cat? Do the two cancel each other out? Is it like a rock, scissors, paper thing? If so, I think Ceiling Cat spies on Hitler (and his lone ball) and therefore wins.

Date: 2012-05-03 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com
Whew, another round of election training done, and a bunch of errands around town accomplished too. There are now two more snails in the house (I think I'll name them Zoop and Zarquon). Now for some recommended reading!

- [livejournal.com profile] kickthehobbit and [livejournal.com profile] halfshellvenus
- [livejournal.com profile] armyandleg and [livejournal.com profile] medleymisty
- [livejournal.com profile] alien_infinity and [livejournal.com profile] ellakite
- [livejournal.com profile] tigrkittn and [livejournal.com profile] porn_this_way

There were, of course, lots more that I read and enjoyed, but these pairs of entries really stuck with me this time around. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that my partner [livejournal.com profile] copyright1983 did a really fantastic job, too, and deserves some shiny votes. :)

And now I have to dash and go pick up a sweetie from work... man, today just doesn't slow down. Also, I want some ice cream. Mint chocolate chip, please.
Edited Date: 2012-05-03 08:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-03 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfshellvenus.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks so much for the rec! Looks like we need it. :0

There are now two more snails in the house (I think I'll name them Zoop and Zarquon).
Yay for Zarqon! But are the snails there by choice? Or by wandering? :0

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Date: 2012-05-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashgaelsonaria.livejournal.com
Day is drawing to and end. I removed the winter dead from one of my citrus trees. Och.
Read my home game entries.
It's been hot today and my window unit is not back into the window yet.
Read my homexgame entries.
crud my brain is foggy, I blame the heat.

Date: 2012-05-04 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marjory.livejournal.com
LJ Idol voting? I'm watching the UK local election results rolling in. I may be grinning somewhat.

Also grimacing as austerity measures take hold, but currently grinning.

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