ext_35784 ([identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therealljidol2010-05-31 03:32 pm

It's Never Too Late to Say Goodbye - Is It? (Part 2)

In the ongoing series of "Gary catching up a few contestants at a time":



[livejournal.com profile] boiconfessed (Week 17) - If you had started at Week 0, there is a good chance that you would still be competing.
That's a pretty big statement given that when I'm writing this there are 21 contestants left, saying that one of those spots might have ended up being yours. But the more I think of it, I think there is some truth in it.

Your ultimate downfall was missing the run off deadline. But going back and looking at things again tonight I saw where you mentioned that your "Caged Bird" entry was rushed and disjointed. I thought that at the time, and rereading it, I see a lot of potential in it and even the disjointed energy I think could have ended up being focused on being more purposefully disjointed. Showing that "creative ADD" in action spiraling out, and your efforts to reign it back in. The material was definitely there and I think had you had a few more weeks under your belt in Idol, instead of being thrown immediately to the wolves part way through a season, from what I've seen in your work and your instincts, I think you could have ended up pulling it off.

"Breaking the Fast" http://boiconfessed.livejournal.com/61612.html was the entry that I heard the most people talking about. Obviously, the ability to be candid and honest with, and about, yourself is something you are able to harness in your writing. It's far too rare, in life and in writing about life, and people respond to it. I think though that if they missed, or don't remember your "Radial" entry http://boiconfessed.livejournal.com/59495.html that it's a decent indicator on why I think you could have been here. The raw materials are there. I think given the time and pressure exerted by the 16 weeks that you missed out of on, that people couldn't help but adore what you were writing.

I haven't seen you around - or any updates in awhile. I hope you are still keeping at it. For your sake and for the sake of the people who love to read your writing.


[livejournal.com profile] ask_a_sup (Week 15) - Let's get this straight. There was an SUPERNATURAL ADVICE COLUMN going on and it made it to Week 15? Seriously? Take a moment. Week 15. Supernatural advice column. I thought it was an interesting idea, and I thought that given the rate of early drops that "sup" could probably squeeze through a few elimination votes before becoming an interesting, maybe confusing footnote in the history of Idol.

A funny thing happened on the way there though. I really started loving these columns!! They were a whole lot of fun.

There were also times though, later in the process, that "sup" put that columns on the shelf and busted out with the writing chops. It's one thing to tell there is talent there in a "fun little project" and the glimpses had a lot of promise. It's quite another when it's in front of you, and, if memory serves, it was. I say "if memory serves" because unfortunately the non-column entries are no longer public so I wasn't able to go back and link them for anyone who might have missed them. So I can't even tell you if they are as good as I remember them being. But I do remember them as good - so those of you who *do* have access, take a look back at those entries and let me know! :)

For those who want to relive the fun though, here's the "winners of the kid's writing contest" sponsored by your favorite advice column! http://ask-a-sup.livejournal.com/2366.html

[livejournal.com profile] misalady (Week 18) - One of the things that was really exciting for me, personally, this season (and I'll admit, a little intimidating) was how many people "came out of the woodwork" to play for the first time. They had watched for multiple seasons, and finally decided to stick their toe into the water and see how they would do. Misa was one of those people, and I've got to say - she did pretty damn good.
How good? Well, Week 18 isn't too shabby at all - and thanks to the handy tag system she has set up, I can link you to *her entire run* on Idol!
http://misalady.livejournal.com/tag/lj idol

As I was reading back through the entries, trying to put my finger on what was so appealing about her work - the line "It's raw, it's real, it's me. And I love it." appeared in her entry about her time on livejournal. What she loves so much about the LJ experience is what makes her appealing. She *is* raw. With both the advantages and disadvantages of that.

The good though - oh, the good is worth it when it all comes together. I didn't have to get passed the title to remember this one: http://misalady.livejournal.com/749363.html - but really, I would go through the entire catalog. There is a lot of potential, and even though times have been rough over the past year, I hope that she continues to find the time to develop it.


[livejournal.com profile] dawny_darko (Week 14) - Her LJ is an expression of her life.
It's a simple statement and one that I think goes under appreciated. People want the "big splash" of an entry and IMO forget that the "J" stands for "journal". They forget the simple elegance of someone talking about what is going on in their lives. Their hopes, dreams and the stories that matter to them. Dawny_darko is an example of someone who hasn't forgotten, and during her time in Idol, managed to talk about the people and moments that were important to her - and why.

Your LJ reflecting who you are, and telling those moments, seems almost a lost art at times, with people pulling you one way or the other in what *they* want to see. But she manages to capture it from http://dawny-darko.livejournal.com/118784.html to rawness of stuff like this http://dawny-darko.livejournal.com/119451.html. (even the fiction manages to sound "true", because *she is*.)

She definitely wasn't one of the most vocal of contestants and I think managed to slip off the radar of some folks as a result. But it's well worth going back to rediscover what you might have missed the first time around - and learning that nothing she does turns out to be an empty gesture.


[livejournal.com profile] jack_batelin (Week 16) - I thought it was appropriate to mention "jack" in the same post as "sup" because they both had the same reaction from me when they first showed up - mainly a "Um - OK". In Jack's case though I knew "he" was coming having received the email asking me if writing under two accounts was OK. When I heard the premises I figured it was going to be interesting for a week or two until they either got bored or booted. One of those two was going to happen.

There was one thing that I wasn't counting on though - *just how good* the entries were going to be! I didn't know that our hard nosed named after Daredevil's short termed alter ego (and in turn named after his boxer father) detective was going to take off the way that it did! I think Jack was pretty surprised by that as well!!

In a lot of cases I will point to one or two entries that were particularly compelling or that I think people should go back and (re)read. In this one though, I'm pointing to the whole journal, since it was an ongoing serial: http://jack-batelin.livejournal.com/ I think it was a great tribute to the noir detective stories and definitely a unique addition to the Idol family this season.

There was no reason that I could see that it *would* work. But it did - and I think that is an outstanding testimony to the quality of the storytelling.


[identity profile] imafarmgirl.livejournal.com 2010-05-31 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I like reading these and just looking back and reflecting on the season. The beginning of the season seems like it was ages ago.

[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2010-05-31 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You're saying goodbye to some of my favourite under appreciateds here. I agree - had boiconfessed come in from the start, I think he would have gone further than he did and I hope he plays from the start next time round. ask_a_sup was just great all the time - single concept contestants have a hard job maintaining the audience interest, so when she branched out into other stuff, it was like woah! She can write even better than I realised. Misalady has a lot of raw potential, I completely agree, and I'd love to see her come back next year and really knock everyone's socks off. And Dawny_darko definitely was under rated because her voice was quieter and subtler than others, but she was well worth reading nevertheless.

I championed Jack a couple of times when he was in danger of going out. I know that he said it was OK to let everyone know who he really was when you did his goodbye - any chance of letting us in on the secret?

[identity profile] dawny-darko.livejournal.com 2010-06-02 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

[identity profile] creature-girl08.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It is actually kind of nice to go back and see some of these older entries.

Thanks for reminding me why I enjoyed them so much.

[identity profile] sharya.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
*cheers Gary on*

[identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
More goodbyes, still none for meee! ):

[identity profile] creature-girl08.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, bah, not me either. But so many others are more wonderful to hear about.

[identity profile] phoenixejc.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I'm telling myself! ;)

[identity profile] creature-girl08.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Why of course the best are saved for last. That is the only way to have it be.

[identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
So if you do these goodbye posts every six weeks (since it was six weeks since part 1), how long before you get all caught up? How many more do you have left to say goodbye to - I've lost count!

[identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Now now, I didn't once mention myself, except in reply to [livejournal.com profile] emo_snal's comment - I was just curious how many of us were left for you to do!

[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2010-06-02 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
There are 19 people on the jury already? Goodness me. It feels like we're hardly losing anyone but the numbers really stack up quickly.

Looking forward to reading more of your tributes.
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[personal profile] connie 2010-06-01 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's always an unexpected gift to see you post one of these, Gary. Thank you for keeping it up!

[identity profile] phoenixejc.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I love these posts. They bring up fond memories of each writer and also give me an additional perspective on their writing.

I especially appreciate Gary's tribute to dawny_darko. Personally, I find it most challenging to capture then expose myself that way. I look forward to seeing her again next season.

[identity profile] dawny-darko.livejournal.com 2010-06-02 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I am not sure if I'll do it again, but it was fun!

[identity profile] joeymichaels.livejournal.com 2010-06-02 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I had theories about [livejournal.com profile] jack_batelin's id, so I'm totally ready to hear who s/he was in their other guise.

[identity profile] dawny-darko.livejournal.com 2010-06-02 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for that awesome goodbye. And thank you so much for running this thing. I've sort of dropped of with the home game.. without a "real" deadline my procrastination gets the better of me, but I feel the posts I made during this competition were the best I'd ever written and I am very glad for the opportunity.

I didn't really read many of the entries from previous seasons (mostly just scienter's, who is why I did it this year), so I figured journaling was what it is about. Glad some liked it.

I haven't decided if I'll do it again next season, but your goodbye and the other comments here are encouraging!

I'm rather shy, and not good at small talk/chitchat, so the green room is a mystery to me.. maybe I'll try it out next time and see where that gets me.

Your reflections are great.. love going back and reading some of these favorites!

[identity profile] jack-batelin.livejournal.com 2010-06-18 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the kind words, Gary. I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner. It has been a while since I've signed into this account.

I had a lot of fun. I also got in some much needed experience. And, I think that as the time went on I did get better, which is one thing that I wanted out of the experiment.

I'm also glad that so many people liked the story. I am tempted to try it again next season.

[identity profile] spydielives.livejournal.com 2010-06-18 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Does that mean you are not outing yourself here? [I am all for it, btw... not revealing yourself]