ext_35784 ([identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therealljidol2014-11-26 09:54 am

Green Room - Week 29 - Day 6

It was a dark and stormy night...

No, really, it was.

Really stormy.

It didn't make matters any better that there ended up being a water pipe that burst a couple streets over from where we were heading.

Traffic is bad on an average day when you are leaving the city and coming into suburbia. But when you add "bad weather" into the mix, it's just going to get worse. Throw in "traveling on bus" - and then once you get home, needing to run back out into it - yeah, it becomes less of a "am I going to be late" and more of a "HOW late am I going to be?"

Especially when you haven't factored in actually eating dinner.

But that's what you sign up for - sometimes you just have to *not* eat in order to get everything done that needs to get done.

When those "perfect storm" situations hit, you try to be more understanding about other people who may be going through something of their own on their end of the internet.

Which is why I send out my patented "You coming?" emails to people who haven't made it in yet. To find out what is going on - and if they just forgot to link their entry. When I'm running ahead of schedule, I tend to look for those myself - and usually end up finding a few on even the best of weeks. (rarely the same person)

I understand - things can happen.

Which is a long way around getting to the question that I have multiple copies of in my inbox last night/this morning. What it boils down to is "Do you enforce the deadlines/why have rules if you won't enforce them?"

There are definitely people who have come in on the wrong side of being late for a poll and have been eliminated as a result.

Deadlines are set. But, since Season 1, the policy has always been "If you get it in before I post the poll - I'll allow it." That's always the been the rule for what gets in the poll and what doesn't.

I can think of someone off the top of my head (a personal favorite of mine that season actually) who ended up submitting their entry less than a minute after a posted the poll. *That* was heartbreaking, but it's one of the dangers involved with posting at last minute. You never know when I am going to be have things ready to go! Things like last night, or where LJ just goes wonky/something wrong with the coding are pretty rare. The closer you get to that edge, the more likely it is to end up costing you.

Some people don't like that. They say it shows too much mercy.

Some people don't like when I have a twist that they think is too cruel.

To me - the mercy and the cruelty ends up evening out. :)

I can let people into the polls. Or come into the game late through special events and powers. Ultimately though YOU will decide if they are going to stay.

That's your power as voters. If you want to use "were they on time?" as a criteria - that's your criteria.
"Have they been here the entire time?" Again. Your criteria.
"Can I beat them?" (I've seen that one used before) That's on you.

The main one should always be "What did I think of the entry?" But those are certainly valid tie-breakers if everything else is equal.

This week has a Contestant Only vote component to it: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/809247.html which is a chance for the contestants to have their say. I hope that you will use it - and if being late to the party is something that bugs you - don't vote for them. If it's not, and they are putting out something you enjoy, do.

This is one small area where it really is "your call", where your will is going to be enforced! Use it wisely.

[identity profile] mallorys-camera.livejournal.com 2014-11-26 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I just vote for pieces I like. I follow the links off the poll page, and I assume if something's linked to the poll page, then it was submitted on time!

After-the-fact editing is a more interesting question for me... To assume that an LJ Idol submission has the inalienability of God's scrit on Moses's stone tablet just strikes me as a blow to the heart of the creative process. If you're a creative person who's deeply involved with something you're creating, the spigot doesn't go off. That's not the way it works. If you think of a change, something that makes your story closer to your creative goal for it, then by golly, I want to read it!

That's just me, of course.

And I'm trying to think if I've ever edited anything beyond obvious typos after the fact... I don't think I have, but I really can't remember back through all 29 weeks!

[identity profile] lrig-rorrim.livejournal.com 2014-11-26 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the editing-after-the-fact objections mostly come down to a matter of consistency - we're all linked to a poll, and there's a sort of expectation that what one person reads by clicking through from the poll is going to be the same as what another person reads. To make substantive changes to the thing is to present something different, so people are judging and making voting calls based on a work that is very much in progress, and they may not know that. I think most people assume that if they get to a piece from the poll and then click back the next day there won't be major changes, and that everyone is seeing the same thing - if voters on the first day and the last day are reading different versions of your entry, it can get kind of confusing, you know?

I'm all for the creative process, but I try to get the best work I can out during the time limit stated, and then leave it alone until after the voting is done. If I think of something awesome that needs to change, I might mention in comments ("hey, I had this fantastic idea.." or make edits to my personal, local copy, but changing the version that's online and live seems disingenuous to me, personally.