ext_35784 ([identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therealljidol2013-08-09 09:49 am

Green Room - Week 11 - Day 8

A couple of weeks ago, there was a report that George Zimmerman helped some people who were in a car accident. Stop rolling your eyes, and bear with me, as usual, I’m going somewhere with this.

The internet almost instantly divided itself between “OMG, WHAT A HERO!” and “HE KILLED TRAYVON! HE IS A MONSTER AND THIS IS SOME SORT OF PR STUNT!”. It came down pretty much along political lines.

Now, the truth of the matter is something still very much in dispute in some circles, and we may never really know what he did, or why he did it.

But maybe that’s not the point. The facts don’t really matter a lot when you break it down to the gist of “People make some really bad decisions, and sometimes those same ones can make very good ones” – that no one is completely one way or the other – and that maybe caricatures are just that, exaggerated viewpoints that have little to do with the actual person.

These are things that you can talk about. But you put the “Zimmerman” name in there, and the whole conversation shifts into something else entirely.

Which is why I didn’t mention the specifics in my post yesterday. Because chances are, you’ve heard of the story I was talking about. You have an opinion. You didn’t know she was a former Idol contestant. But you either know about her post that went viral – or you’ve seen the stuff that came out after, with her and her life being picked apart on Reddit and dozens of other social media sites.

Some people seemed to miss the bigger point of making that post – that the details *didn’t matter*. I excluded them because there doesn’t need to be another post about the subject. I’ve seen more than enough.

But what I *don’t* see is the idea that a “history of mental illness” DOES NOT EQUAL lying. Heck, from what I’ve seen and/or heard, there are people who scanned what I said and came away thinking that I said just the opposite!
So, I’ll repeat it: Does NOT equal.

Dealing with depression is bad enough without people dragging it all over the internet because you chose to talk about something important to you.

Talking about THAT doesn’t require the details. But considering that I had emails asking me if I *was* going to say something about the subject, I figured that I should at least tell you where my head was at, and why I was suddenly bringing up the subject.

I’m quite sure everyone reading this knows someone who has a “dramatic” life. Things are always happening to them, and at some point you wonder “Why are all of these really bad things happening to them????”

There is usually someone who steps up and “calls BS” on it – saying that they are just making up stuff to get sympathy.

You know what? Sometimes they are. I’ve certainly seen a few of them.

Sometimes they aren’t though. I’d wager the vast majority of times people *aren’t* just “making things up”! Bad stuff can, and does, happen to people. Jumping to the conclusion that someone is lying about an event they are reporting because they have a history of mental illness is akin to saying that someone wasn’t “actually raped” because they have had sex before. The logic just doesn’t hold.

More importantly – it doesn’t matter what the “facts” are. Which is the real story. It’s the only real detail that you (or anyone else) need to have – that people are complex, and regardless of what you *think* you know, if someone is reaching out for support, they probably need it.

It’s NOT “drama” to talk about these things, or to allude to a “developing situation”. It’s nothing that is currently happening in Idol. But rather something that is happening *to* someone who once participated, and as such, is part of our extended family. Which is why it “matters”, and why I need to address it.

I’m not interested in the breaking down of if you believe her or not. In fact, I’d rather avoid that, because it’s taking quite a bit out of me to NOT waltz into some of these sites and start breaking heads. If someone were to decide that they had a negative opinion around *here*, yeah, I’m not sure that I could contain that impulse. Which I don’t want… because those people folks talk about the internet, they are more than just a couple 0s and 1s. There are actual people on the other ends of those interconnected tubes.

Just remember that, and act accordingly.

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There is a poll that is happening – so act accordingly on that as well: http://therealljidol.livejournal.com/682110.html

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I now return you to your regularly scheduled posting pictures of your cats, already in progress...

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, of course you need the cherry. Something's gotta cut through all that rum, and it sure ain't gonna be the pineapple juice.

As an alcohemical enthusiast and former amateur bartender, I encourage science. Just be careful. You think the ones you're drinking right now are strong ...

I'd offer to mix you one out of my liquor cabinet, but ... well, you know. Internet, two dimensional, etc.. But see if the bartender (this one or the next one) has any orgeat syrup. Do *not* let them try to sub in some crap almond liqueur or beverage flavoring. It's not even close and will ruin the flavor. (Trust me: science.)

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Aye, captain!

I'm home from the bar now, but will definitely keep this in mind for my next excursion! The bar I was at is literally a block away from my apartment, AND I know the bartender, so I just tip like crazy and can pretty much get whatevs. Besides. Nothing done in the name of science can possibly be a bad idea, right?!

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say "Yes! Science!" ... but the other week I tried to figure out how to use absinthe as a mixer, and there were a lot of failed experiments. I mean, like, a lot. It wasn't pretty. You know you're in trouble when a Manhattan with homemade maraschino cherries can't quite blot out the anise flavor.

But that's the beauty of science: you can learn from the mistakes of others.

So, instead I'll say: "Hooray for science, albeit incrementally!"

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Wise, wise words those are!

As for absinthe - ya got me on that one. One of my coworkers however is really into the stuff (yes this is what gets discussed in the teachers' lounge, just saying) and he swears up and down the best way to drink it is to light it on fire first.

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
That I hadn't actually tried. Normally I only light drinks on fire around the holidays, and that's either the Ice 101 (top layer of a Flaming Christmas Bastard) or the Bacardi 151 (which has no real purpose beyond Molotov cocktails, so far as I know). But I could see it.

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
In all fairness, 151 is also really good for making green dragon.

Dare I ask what's a "Flaming Christmas Bastard"??

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's not as dangerous as it sounds*. In equal measures, layer creme de menthe, cinnamon schnapps (we prefer Hot Damn! for this) and Ice 101 in a shotglass. Dim lights. Ignite the Ice 101 floating on top. Toast to your deity / deities / FSM / harmony with the universe / the day you're having, blow out the fire**, and then slam shot. It's very festive.

What's in a Green Dragon? ETA: Scratch that, Googled it. Oh, science!

*Compared to the Four Horsemen, which is just as dangerous as it sounds.

** PRO TIP: DO NOT FORGET THIS STEP.
Edited 2013-08-10 04:41 (UTC)

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
FOUR HORSEMEN IS EVIL. Anything with jagermeister is fucking evil as shit, and Four Horsemen is aptly named because I was PRAYING for the end of the damn world just to put me out of my misery the one time I tried one. SO NOT OKAY. So not!

I need to try this Flaming Christmas Bastard concoction. It'll either be amazing, or taste like several different flavors of Listerine blended together, and there's only one way to find out which!

Green dragon is...er...nothing I would ever DREAM of making! But - hypothetically speaking - it is what may possibly result (in theory only, of course!) if one were to use high-proof alcohol to extract various chemicals from cannabis and consume the resulting tincture.

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. You make your Horsemen with Jager?? Is that a regional thing? I was always taught they were Johnny (Walker), Jose (Cuervo), Jack (Daniels) and Jim (Beam). Maybe sometimes they go hunting Wild Turkey with their friend Yukon Jack.

Next you're going to tell me you make Mind Erasers with Chambord instead of Kahlua.

That's right -- and that way is science! (I find the fire takes the astringency out of the Ice 101, but maybe that's just me.)

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
*I* don't make four horsemen with anything, because if I'm mixing my own shit, I'm either doing some type of screwdriver (these are amazing with vanilla vodka or Pinnacle Whip), some type of rum and coke (Sailor Jerry preferred), a Mountain Rita (Mt Dew + Cointreau + tequila of choice for a caffeinated fizzy buzz), or a Ninja Turtle Ooze (pineapple juice + blue curacao + midori + malibu + 99 blackberries + peach schnapps = neon green and AMAZING). Jager Horsemen might be a regional thing? The one I had was in the Dallas area, and like most things in the Dallas area, it was tainted and vile and not good for much of anything at all.

What's in a mind eraser??

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Aha! Texas. Say no more.

A mind eraser is a layered drink (not a shot, a proper drink). Kahlua on the bottom, then a vodka, then sprite on top. You stick your straw in the bottom of the glass and drink it as fast as you can. The kahlua (or chambord, if you're from Jersey) is cloying enough that hitting the vodka isn't as bad as it sounds; then the Sprite (or similar clear carbonated beverage) washes it away. --with your mind, along with it.

I'd say I have fond memories of doing Mind Erasers, but, well ...

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think I have Kahlua in my cabinet, and you can bet your ass I've got vodka on hand (bottle of Goose in the freezer, fuck yeah!) - there is a vending machine in the parking garage that sells Sprite. WHY must you tempt me with such things. WHY?!

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
I can only show you the door; you're the one who must stumble awkwardly through it, spilling booze on the carpet.

(Do you have little straws? You can't do it without a little straw; it's the crucial part of the delivery mechanism.)

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Noooooooo!!!! [/Vader]

It turns out I have neither little straws NOR Kahlua! (I just discovered I do have Apple Pucker and Captain Morgan though, which makes a badass spiced-apple-cidery shot). I am so hitting up the liquor store tomorrow in order to remedy this situation.

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent. Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.
*cough*
I mean, good luck. :-) (And I do recommend the Kahlua over the Chambord. I find the Kahlua's a more dense flavor and takes the shock of the vodka with more efficiency.)

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Noted! For...er...my scientific records, of course >_>

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
OH SURE, google it after I've already incriminated myself! Pffft :P

And by "incriminated myself" I mean revealed to the world how much I totally adore theoretical chemistry! ♥

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Bwahahahaha Well, sure. This is all theoretical. I mean, no one can prove a thing. It's not like you forgot to burn the lab notes.

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Bah, the lab notes are all theoretical too!

Er. I mean. Lab notes? What lab notes?!

[identity profile] anyonesghost.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Years from now, Gary's going to look back and realize this was the comment thread where LJ Idol first turned into Breaking Bad.

[identity profile] porn-this-way.livejournal.com 2013-08-10 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
lmao ♥

(Ya know, I've been meaning to start watching that ever since I realized it's done by the same Vince Gilligan who was my favorite screenplay writer from the X-Files)