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Green Room - Week 26 - Day 5

In case you missed the announcement at the end of last night's Green Room - there is now a facebook group for anyone interested in having something else to click "like" on.

The question was asked about if there was a way to set your fb privacy settings so that it didn't show up on your profile. I'll be honest, I have no idea - so I'm going to ASK DR LJ. Or I guess in this case "Ask Programmer LJ".

I'm not planning on really doing much with that group right now. It's mostly a placeholder to have a presence over there, hopefully to help direct people back here. :)

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I am trying very, very hard not to eat any of these each time I pass through the kitchen.

The giant Super Biscuit in the bottom right hand corner sadly exists no longer, and the other 16 are to be saved for tonight.

Are those ANZAC bikkies?

Indeed they are! And posting that picture here was the stupidest thing ever, because now I am staring longingly at the screen as well as the kitchen bench!

hahaha.

I feel so Australian right now ;)

Um, you need a distraction. What can I do to distract you?

Type up my entries for me? XD Okay, not that that would distract me ... more like give me more time to stare at the biscuits!

LOL, no, that definitely would not distract you. You could read my home game entries though! :D

Sadly that would break my rule #1: not to start reading until I have posted ;-) So I'd better hurry up typing!!

I figured as much. :P Type, type, type! The contestant thread is looking lonely right now.

What sort of biscuits (cookies?) are those? They look yummy!

They're called Anzac biscuits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZAC_biscuit) :D I kind of overdid the golden syrup but they tasted amazing!

So...... those are for me, right??? :-)

In exchange for votes, sure ;-)

My boyish charm ain't going to cut it? Damn. :-p

Oh, sonny. I'm afraid your boyish charm is barking up the wrong tree there! XD

I'm fairly certain that anything you choose to "like" and anything you put on your interests page is public no matter what. That was part of the new changes they made.

Everyone should go through their privacy settings since the changes, a lot has changed, including that they automatically set you as wanting to share information with third parties.

I checked those third party settings last week when someone mentioned it in their status update and mine was automatically opted out so I didn't have to change anything.

To be honest, I don't think there is a way to tinker privacy settings for individual liked pages. I tend to use as much of Facebook's privacy settings as I can, down to customising privacy on individual status updates. But if anyone knows otherwise, I'd be thrilled. Then maybe I'd join a few more groups and things that I don't really want to out myself in public about.

Today has been pretty quiet for me. My flist felt dead, but hey, at least I have two Home Game entries up. They're on my first page of posts if you don't want to wait and see if there'll be a home game thread ;) I posted about my trip to Brunei and what it takes to be a geek.

I also managed to import some video footage from last week's comedy show. Now I just have to edit the promo video and upload it to YouTube. It's about the only productive thing I have going for me right now.

Tomorrow night I have a date night planned with my husband. I am looking forward to this seeing as I think the last time we went out just the two of us was more than a month ago, when we were in Melbourne. We are going to go see Iron Man 2!

My husband and son saw IM2 and said it was good. I hope you enjoy it!:)

I am still waiting for the home game thread too...

I hope I do too. I've seen mixed feelings from various people.

If you enjoyed the original Iron Man, you'll like IM2! (And there is a short scene after the credits, so stay in your seats!)

Thanks for the heads up! I like seeing things after the credits but it's so hard to know when to expect them.

It was a fun movie! Hope you and the hubs have a great time! Enjoy your date night!

Thanks!

Yeah, pretty sure there's not a way to like something without it being in your profile. I actually recently deleted a lot of my interests when they started cross-linking them to pages and stuffs. But, I still find Facebook to be the most convenient way to keep up with a broad range of people from my present and past.

Today is kind of rainy and dark. I have to work today. Maybe I will work on my entries at some point in the day/evening. I also want to do more packing/purging. I started digging around on craigslist roommate wanted postings last night. I have a delicious muffin on my desk.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm... what kinda muffin? :-)

Oh hell yes! I tuned in to Glee to watch an episode I thought I missed and it turns out they're airing season 2 in Malaysia now :D

...Facebook?

So if I'm understanding how that would work, the FB people will follow any links there back here to LJ?

In theory.

Which is why it's important that no one "over there" who *doesn't* want people to be able to do that should not friend/like/be a fan of the group. (heh, yes, I'm advocating people NOT join something. Weird huh?)

It increases our presence in theory and insures that no one else sets up a group. (It was going to happen sooner or later. I'd rather that I be the one to do it rather than someone set one up and control the content.)

edit to add: From what I've seen, there are *quite a few* of contestants this season who have been linking their entries to their fb anyway. So it seemed like a natural fit for them.)

Edited 2010-05-12 15:13 (UTC)

This rain on the plain is a pain and drives me insane! AW

How inane! ;)

You realize, Gary, that because of FB linkages that Season 7 of LJI will probably start out with about 500 people?? =)

I'm at work, still doing that thing I do. About to head up to the front desk for an hour, back in a while.

If we're at 23 comments in a Green Room in the middle of the week, I'm doubting there will be that many people signing up for Season 7.

Heck, to be completely honest, it's days like this when I take a look at my life and go "Season 7? Really?"

We're just at that point in the season where there aren't a lot of people still in it, and the people still in are getting tired, and there's no drama to whip the masses into a frenzy. It's not a bad thing!

Just throw out some bigger twists next week, and you'll have all the GR traffic you can take!

I know. In theory. Not having people in a frenzy is great (although I'm still getting plenty of questions/comments via email!)

But I'm still bound by my word not to post more than I *need* to post, and need to assess actual usage for the next few weeks. I'm sure the closer we get to the end the more active people will get again. That's how it usually works at least.

It's just kind of sad to see so much going on *behind the scenes* and so little "in front of the camera".

The twists are pre-set, so whatever is on tap for next week was always going to be there. :)

Edited 2010-05-12 17:19 (UTC)

Assess usage of the Green Room? Or are you using that as an indicator of interest in the game overall?

I'm completely unaware of anything happening behind the scenes, and I kind of like it that way! :)

I tend to view Green Room activity as active interest level. That and comments on people's entries (although of course the more going on *here*, the better. After all, there are still, week after week, new people coming out to vote. The more activity that is visible in the community the greater the chance that they will pipe up and stick around to see what is so interesting. :D)

That's fair.

I have to admit, though, that I'm always a bit put off when you talk about Idol like a brand. I understand that it *does* have equity, and that it needs to *keep* and *build* equity to keep the community and the game going. But at the same time, I sometimes feel like we're ants in your ant farm, and you just want to maintain the conditions necessary for us to keep producing and recruiting new ants.

Hmmmmmmmm... well we can probably manufacture some drama to bring the masses back in a foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy, I'm sure. Whaddya think? :-)

*shudders*

lol... Hey, I do it all for Gary.

Even though my track record betting against you is... ahem... spotty... I bet that there will be a *ton* of people signing up for a Season 7. There were what, 241 this season? With the added exposure over at FB and the convention and all... there could be a pretty big turnout. Want to wager? :-p

I expect there will be more people than this season too, but I have been wrong about other things too.

Oh, I've been wrong about plenty... like backing dear Amanda... *sigh* But I don't think we're wrong about this. :-)

I'm pretty sure we're right about season 7. It'll start around 400-500 people, maybe eliminate 10 or so each week for the first few weeks, plus the inevitable drop-outs as they go "Are these people INSANE??" ... ;)

lol... it would be seriously insane with that many people. But fun!

This is at least in part because of all of us academics. This is a nasty, nasty time of year for us. I'd be participating a lot more if I didn't have finals and senior events and performances and sporting events and graduation to plan and and and.

Then, of course, we're knocked out of the habit of checking LJI every day, so you lose a few people here and there.

I've noticed all season that a certain percentage of participants vanish once they're voted off (or, rather, not voted in). I'm not all that surprised to see the numbers dropping.

I wonder if starting "the jury" earlier and including more people might not encourage more of the folks to stick around and stay active?

The jury is actually earlier than it has been in past seasons. :)

There are things coming up that might get people talking again. Maybe.

This is the start of the general LJ summer drop off anyway.

We will see.

Maybe start LJI with the start of the TV Season? :P

Especially if you have uku thousand applicants next year. If you really have twice what you had this year, you're going to have to eliminate like ten people a week or you'll end up with a two year contest on your hands. :D

Well the one plus side to this time of year is that is coming to the *end* of the regular television season - so people have less to watch. :)

I have a plan to deal with a large influx. It will excite some people, upset others and confuse a lot more - in other words, the perfect plan. :D

I already like it!

Making a comic for my second entry, and my hat is off to anybody that actually does that on a regular basis.

Damnit Tea, how do you do it? *bashes speech bubbles until they fit*

Have no facebook, but just got a deviantart account:

http://rattsu.deviantart.com/

There is a way to control who sees it, but you can only customize the setting for your entire "Likes and Interests" section, rather than individual pages that you become a fan of.

If you go to Account > Privacy Settings > Profile Information, the second setting is Likes and Interests. In the drop down menu, there is an option to customize. You can then authorize only custom friends groups to see this section.

Basically, the FB friend groups system works like LJ filters; you can use them for privacy, customizing what parts of your profile or activity show up (and even which groups you appear online to in the chat program), and you can use them for your own following interest (like when you use your filters to view your friends page).

So, you can create a custom group that's allowed to see that section, and then customize your privacy preferences to reflect that.

I, on the other hand, display LJ Idol pride on my Facebook without shame. :D

I'm not seeing that option. Have you done this recently? I think they might have gotten rid of it.

Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Are you having trouble finding the privacy setting, or creating the custom group?

A few years ago I outed my "Spydielives" id with my real name, deliberately.

It was rather freeing.

Now I can cross-link all sorts of things and not worry whether I am doing it as Spydie or as Amy, so long as I think about the other contexts of "small business owner" and "corporate attorney's wife."

I'm the same way. I'm pretty open with my FB and my LJ. I have family and coworkers who read both. I just keep that public persona appropriate for those audiences, and lock LJ entries that *are* private. Makes it much easier for me.

I think the problem now though is that because all likes are now attached to pages, even if you have your interests blocked on your own page--anyone who clicks on the page for "making out with hotdogs" will now see your icon listed among the fans or whatever.

Although that was always the case with groups and fanpages.

The real difference is that in the past I could list "LOST" as a favorite TV show without actually adding their fanpage.

Good point! I checked with my friend who is an engineer at FB. He said since they have made it possible to have your friends list private, they may be planning to do the same with your "liked" pages as well. He's going to look into it and get back to me. Fingers crossed!

The fine print:

Privacy Settings Friends, Tags and Connections

These settings only control the information people can see on your profile. This information, such as your Pages and list of friends, is still public, so it could appear elsewhere on the site and be accessed by applications you and your friends use.

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FB's new internal applications automatically link things, even if (on your profile) something is not displayed. So you might not display LJI on your profile. But someone looking at LJI will see a link back to you automatically. That is what people are worried about.

Good point! I didn't think of that.

Everyone has been talking about the linked interests issue on their profiles. It hasn't happened to my page at all, so I don't even know what it looks like - but it sounds like a pain.

I'm not so worried about people finding me from the LJ Idol FB page. I'm more concerned about people finding the LJ Idol FB page from my profile. And I'm not willing to adjust all my "liked" pages' security just so I can "like" the LJ Idol one. I don't have a problem with people knowing I like the other things because they can't trace me back to my LJ.

Yeah, I checked out that part and knew about that.

For me it's not LJ Idol shame. It's my general being more open on LJ than I am with people I have friended on Facebook. Like family and high school folks. I don't want them knowing I'm in an open marriage, just for starters.

Seconded those who say -- anything you "like" on FB is public. Including, if you link your interests to pages, all of your interests.

Hence I deleted all mine.

It's annoying.

I deleted all the ones that were stupid, or not controlled by someone I knew personally.

This is the important bit that people might not be noticing:

Privacy Settings Friends, Tags and Connections:
These settings only control the information people can see on your profile. This information, such as your Pages and list of friends, is still public, so it could appear elsewhere on the site and be accessed by applications you and your friends use.

Howdy Howdy Howdy all... Hope everybody is having a fine day.

I use FB a lot actually... I've been able to reconnect with a lot of people from my past and it's mostly been a good thing. Though it can be a total time suck. But there are definitely some things that drive me crazy about it. But hey, you have to take the good with the bad.

Today seems to be much less of a Smurf-punting day than it has been recently. So I take that as a good thing. I'm actually feeling pretty chipper... strangely enough.

Still puzzling over my entries. I fear the twists in the voting this week... somebody suggested another combined vote/Gatekeeper round... yikes! I suppose we shall see!

Happy Hump Day Folks!!!

"I fear the twists in the voting this week... somebody suggested another combined vote/Gatekeeper round... yikes!"

This. The Potential Voting Gimmicks/Shenanigans for a Double-Topic with an Open Topic are bordering on epic.

I'm just trying not to fret about it too much as there's not much I can do about it one way or the other... Because maybe he'll surprise us with a regular vote.

Wheeee!

Epic indeed. lol...

Yeah, I'm working on not stressing about it. But surprise us with a regular vote? Oh, I don't think he'd be that kind to us. :-)

Buckle your seat belts!

Hey everyone.

These past few days have been really hectic. I recently just moved in with my sister, due to some problems in the home, so I have no idea when I'll be able to write my Idol entries. I'll have to write them both today, tomorrow, and Friday morning, because I won't have time Friday afternoon or Saturday morning. I do have ideas, so those go for SOMETHING, right? :D

Also, speaking about problems in the home: If anyone can spare a few thoughts and/or prayers my way, I'd appreciate it. I'm just feeling a tad bit overwhelmed. Just knowing someone's thinking about me would help so much.

Oh gosh--I actually had to move out of my house temporarily as a teenager and it was definitely overwhelming. I've had other friends who had to do it on a permanent basis, too. But, sometimes we have to do what we have to do in order to survive. I hope that you are safe and well!

Sending you and yours good vibes for healing whatever is not well.

Sending prayers your way. Hope things work out for you.

I missed this when you first posted it... I'm so sorry that you're going through a rough time right now. Just know that I too am keeping you in my thoughts. I hope that whatever it is, it passes soon.

I missed this the first time, but I am certainly sending positive thoughts your direction *hugs*

*snuggles*

Praying for you. I really hope things turn around soon for you!

Home Game Entry #2 - Strange Fruit (http://joeymichaels.livejournal.com/571247.html)

Requisite green room post to appease Gary.

Also Face to Face (http://viagra.livejournal.com/118703.html). GO READ IT AND COMMENT OR I WILL FEEL UNLOVED AND CEASE TO BE.

I already read and commented. Isn't my love enough to keep you from ceasing? :(

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