therealljidol | Green Room - Week 22

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Green Room - Week 22 - Day 3

Got a little challenge for you guys. If you're up to it.*G*

I want you to take a minute, and write down your 3 best ideas for topics. I was going to say 1, but I want to try to fit in as many as I can in the remaining time we have (heh, did I say that out loud?*g*) and that gives more leeway to pick and choose from them. Then email them to me at clauderainsrm@gmail.com.

I was originally just looking for ones from current contestants - but what the hell, let's hear from all of you. Flood my email with YOUR TOPIC IDEAS. (as opposed to spam, I already get enough of that thanks.*g*) The ideas that I think will be a good fit just might be showing up soon. Who knows, YOU might just create the NEW "Most Hated Topic EVER!".*G*

Don't post them here. Why? Because then people can prepare themselves for them. If they know what's coming, where's the fun in that????

Anyway, get thinking and emailing - and thank you!

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Now that's out of the way, so what's going on?

(and who is going to be 23rd? We know the likely folks who will be FIRST, FIRST, FIRST to post? But who will be 23rd?That's a valid mystery!*g*)

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We're going to have to agree to disagree, unless you're not up for that.

Why? Because you're not paying attention to what I said- which is your right- but it does make it hard to come to any other mutually acceptable terms.

Why else? Because I'm not willing to tell you how I know what you've said in a journal I'm not able to read. I will say that I'm not doing anything sneaky to do it; I happened to be in the right place at the right time to see it when it had been removed from someone's journal and placed elsewhere.

For future debates, you may wish to avoid saying things like "and what the crap do you mean one journal vs another journal...you're not friended to my journal so all you see is what I write here." It makes it look like you have something in your journal you're afraid someone will see that would prove my point.

Oh, and I read everything. I read every comment in every thread of this post, so if you still feel I missed something, please consider my offer to agree to disagree.

I listened to everything you had to say...just because I don't happen to agree with you doesn't make you automatically correct.

Mostly I think you're full of malarkey because I've never said in my personal journal that I thought I should have gone farther. ::shrug:: You've sadly been somehow misinformed. There are several people here that are friended to my personal journal that can confirm that.(not that what I have to say in my personal journal is ANY of your concern...and really...if you're not willing to be up front about it all...you shouldn't be bringing it up at all)...and I am willing to back myself up...if you really want me to post my scathing

therealljidol post here I can...I didn't out of respect for others. (I did, however, fully admit it existed and that it was not all sunshine and flowers)

My journal is friends locked for a reason. If I find someone taking personal information from it and posting it elsewhere they will be dismissed toot sweet.

In case you haven't been paying attention...ask anyone. I hide nothing. I don't blow smoke up anyone's butt. I'm about as open and honest as they come. I am what I am...I've lived too much life to be otherwise and quite frankly don't have time for nonsense.

As far as your offer to agree to disagree...fine and dandy...as long as it doesn't have to do with my personal character or integrity...you don't like me...fine...but you don't know me so you have absolutely NO business dogging me.

Edited 2008-04-10 18:50 (UTC)

Actually, this has nothing to do with whether or not I like you. I don't know you well enough to say I do or don't. This is about saying one thing here and another here- even here in LJ Idol- which is a trait I don't like in people. Does not liking that mean I don't like you? Again, I don't know enough about the whole of you to make that judgment. I don't like what you're doing. Period.

*I* did not say that the various things I'd seen were from your journal. You made that assumption.

The rest of the things you've said are further proof that we don't communicate on the same plane, so it's probably better that I don't address them. I think we're less likely to keep this going if I don't. The only other thing that I have to say is that it is what you've written that I'm "dogging," and if you take that to mean I'm also impugning your personal character and/or integrity, I apologize, for that wasn't and isn't my intent.

Dude...you sure can talk in circles.

If you feel I've contradicted myself feel free to point me somewhere concrete and I'll be happy to explain...other than that...all I'm am doing is expressing an opinion which I have every right to do...You don't happen to like my opinion...feel free to scroll on by.

*I* did not say that the various things I'd seen were from your journal. You made that assumption.

Um...

Because I'm not willing to tell you how I know what you've said in a journal I'm not able to read

If I made an assumption I'd say it was based on some pretty solid ground.

And for the record...I haven't stated ANYWHERE that I think I should have gone farther in the game.

I agree we don't even remotely begin to communicate on the same plane.

Thank you for the apology...it's accepted.

Edited 2008-04-10 19:16 (UTC)

I purposely said the things I did to see what you'd do with them. I saw. What that tells me is that you make assumptions and act upon them rather than asking for clarification first, which is why I won't tell you where I saw what I did or quote it directly. I'm not hiding it from you, I'm simply being judgmental based on the results of a passive-aggressive test I applied during our conversations.

I'm a psyc major who graduated with high honors and has spoken at Harvard Medical...you fail.

Oh, please. This is just ridiculous at this point. Shall I show you my penis, too?

...and all readers have lost respect for you...

Seriously, descending into that type of comment just proves you're not up to a debate...

G'bye...

God Bless...

Personally I don't have one and at this point I'm not quite sure you do. You talk in circles, are unable to back up ANYTHING you say, and then go on judging people based on some random test you've devised that has absolutely zero qualitative or quantitative basis.

For the record none of what I said was passive/aggressive. It was merely honest gut reaction. If you want to see passive/aggressive I can show you passive/aggressive...in fact I can show you straight up aggressive. I don't need to be passive about anything.

As for your ridiculous little "test" I'll play your silly little game...let's just say you were right and I was passive/aggressive or whatever it is you think I did to fail your random made up in your own LITTLE mind test...how do you know I'm not having a bad day?...how do you know someone else didn't jump down my throat right before you decided to disparage my character and integrity? How do you know I didn't just stub my toe? How do you know I didn't just get in an argument with my boss/boyfriend/brother/whoever?

Oh wait...You don't...yeah...no qualitative or quantitative value whatsoever.

I reiterate.

YOU.FAIL.

Edited 2008-04-10 19:45 (UTC)

This is now the last word on this thread. Go back to your corners and take it elsewhere.

Wow - this post makes you come off pretty bad.

Why else? Because I'm not willing to tell you how I know what you've said in a journal I'm not able to read. If you aren't able to read it, shouldn't that be a clue? That the poster doesn't want it public for whatever?

I happened to be in the right place at the right time to see it when it had been removed from someone's journal and placed elsewhere.
Did it ever occur to you that this super secret posting might have been inaccurate? Here's a great tip - don't trust information you can't verify independently.

It makes it look like you have something in your journal you're afraid someone will see that would prove my point.

Or maybe it makes her someone who values her privacy and is hurt someone on her friends list is copying and pasting locked entries (or in this case making up stuff that was supposedly in locked entries.) People lock journals for all sorts of reasons - it isn't your job to know why, it's your job as a decent human being to respect the request for privacy.

Having been misquoted in the past (which is pretty good given 80% of my posts are unlocked) I can tell you how much it sucks when random person A start telling you what you've said and it's wrong.

You should be very careful when making assumptions as to who I am, what I've been through, what my thoughts on privacy are, and what I've been saying to someone who has been holding her own quite well without your assistance.

I'm sorry that my interactions here have you seeing me in a negative light. I asked a question based on information stated here in this entry. That question was not part of the passive-aggressive test I applied after I got the first two replies. I pushed for clarification, and said what I did from there.

This is between

uawildcatgirl and myself unless one of us has asked for someone to step in and take a side. I haven't, and I'd like to think she hasn't, either.

Thank you for your input. I hear what you're saying, and will decide what I need to do with it after I have a chance to think about it.

You should be very careful when making assumptions as to who I am I don't care if you are random person a, bill clinton, or a fake identity my girlfriend uses. Who you are has nothing to do with what I say to you or my opinion. I don't see how this comment is relevant to my post in the slightest, unless you are implying that you have another handle that is on her friends list? In which case, that's pretty deceptive and wrong since her comments here make it clear she doesn't know about it.

This is between uawildcatgirl and myself unless one of us has asked for someone to step in and take a side. Last I checked, you were posting in a public place. The nifty thing about public forums is that what you say can be commented on by anyone - it's a group discussion. Also I am on her friends list and I can verify that she's never said she should go farther - once again your intel is wrong.

Thank you for your input You are welcome.

Last I checked, you were posting in a public place.

Exactly...apparently it was ok for them to jump into my conversation with someone else...make assumptions and judge me...but it's not ok for anyone else to do that!

Gotta love the double standard. And I really don't get the veiled "you don't know who I am (insert ominous music here)" thing. Why would I care? My opinion remains the same if I'm talking to a homeless joe on the street corner or the pope.

No logic in this one.

This is now the last word on this thread. Go back to your corners and take it elsewhere.

Wow...censorship is great.

It's not censorship, it's asking you to please take your argument off the community.

No offense...cause I love ya...but I didn't see a please anywhere in there until just now. (and since myself and one other person were the only ones to get the spanking...not the person who actually STARTED the argument...it felt very much like censorship)

I will respect your wishes.

Edited 2008-04-10 20:05 (UTC)

I just replied to the end of each strain of the thread. I didn't mean it to only be directed to yourself and

boundfate. The intention was to end the thread.

I'm sorry I didn't add the please to my first comment.

Thank you.

Ooooh...the shadow knows!!!

Pfft...who needs logic and intellect in a debate?

Oh no...I pointed people in this direction (see me..honest and upfront...you..hiding in the shadows and unwilling to back anything up) because I want to know just where I EVER said I should have gone farther in this game and exactly where I'm contradicting myself. So I asked people to show me....

No one can. But they can show you that you are indeed full of malarkey.

This is now the last word on this thread. Go back to your corners and take it elsewhere.

And will there be one of these given to

n_decisive as well? Just curious?

If she posts again in the thread, yes.

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