ext_35784 ([identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therealljidol2011-05-04 08:28 am

Green Room - Week 24 - Day 4

If you tripped right now, you might accidentally fall into the Top 25.

Let's take a moment to consider that. Because I'm not entirely sure the full impact has hit everyone quite yet.

Counting Second Chance, we have had 261 contestants this season. Everyone left is within a breath of reaching the Top 25. That's pretty darn good.

Give yourself a moment to pat yourself on the back.

Now that your hands are preoccupied I can strike!!! Oh wait, sorry. . . kind of a bit of impulse there. ;)

What I mean, of course, is "job well done".

Of interest, to me, is that there do still seem to be divisions in the ranks among vets and newbies, or to be more accurate, people who became friends in previous seasons vs people who are playing for the first time. Maybe it's not "divisions" so much as they are "priorities". It makes sense, people who grow closer tend to admire each other's work and share similar tastes in what they like and don't like as much. From my perch, I've seen it before, but it hasn't felt quite like this.

Then again, this is also the highest number of veterans we've ever had left at this stage of the competition. So that is bound to shift that perception in new and interesting ways.

It's worth noting - because I mentioned it just the other day and someone said they had never heard this stat: Thus far, every single Idol season has been won by a newbie. No veteran has ever won. No man had ever won. No non-American has ever won! Will this be the season where one or more of those is broken? Only time, and the voters, will tell.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If my stats are correct:
12 newbies remain; of those, 9 fit the stereotypical winner

However, non stereotypes, we have:
21 vets
8 males
8 folks not living in the US (I'm not sure if [livejournal.com profile] alephz, [livejournal.com profile] tamaraland and I count as non-American, though, given I think we all have citizenship)

If [livejournal.com profile] alephz counts as foreign, he's the only anti-stereotype that remains.

[identity profile] tamaraland.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a non-practicing American thank you very much.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. But I still have citizenship XD

[identity profile] tamaraland.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I have others too though. I'd give up the US if it wouldn't cost a fortune and probably land me on a no-fly list.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. My only other citizenship is Australian. I think dual American/something else counts as foreign enough!

[identity profile] alephz.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I wanna count as foreign now, if only to be the darkest of dark horses.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm totally counting you as foreign :D

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I just like the idea of having the darkest of dark horses still in our midst, too :D

[identity profile] roina-arwen.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. It sounds like it could be a nightmare!

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You're awesome with puns XD

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[identity profile] xo-kizzy-xo.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd put you, [livejournal.com profile] alephz, and [livejournal.com profile] tamaraland as "living abroad". I'm thinking of those where English isn't their first language, like [livejournal.com profile] agirlnamedluna and [livejournal.com profile] rattsu, if she were playing.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
The other foreigners are English speakers, living in Australia and the UK. They don't have US citizenship.

And dude, I've never lived in the US so I don't really consider myself "living abroad." Not unless you mean I'm living abroad from my home country, Australia.
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[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not an English speaker. I'm English.

We aren't all variations on a theme of America you know.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
XD I was going for the opposite of what Kizzy was saying about foreign languages, but obviously didn't do a very good job :P The point remains that there are non-Americans who use English as their first language, too ;)

[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
STOP BRINGING IT BACK TO FRIGGING AMERICA!!!

There are English people who use English. There are non-English people who use English. That is all.

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[identity profile] serpentpixie.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
(Americans don't speak English, they speak American, but don't tell them I said that ;) )
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[identity profile] momebie.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, there are probably more people with English as a Second Language who use English in a proper manner than there are native speakers (regardless of what country they're from) who use English in a proper manner.

Not that I'm about to argue over which of the native speakers use it 'better', because I find colloquial changes to language fascinating and beautiful. But that's the root of the issue. Language changes over time, and I don't think that the people who live in England speak the same English that was spoken a hundred years ago. No one gets to hold the stick at this point and be king of the mountain. We've all been left a legacy and it's ours to do what we choose to do with it.

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[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Your secret is safe with me!

[identity profile] tamaraland.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But I work in French and Russian, have to conduct half my business in German and my husband is Finnish. It's not doing my English any favors, that's for sure.

[identity profile] alephz.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you still use the language with grace and style.

[identity profile] tamaraland.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Tack! Jag bruckar känna sig som en idiot!

[identity profile] alephz.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Kanske du känner så men aldrig är du så.

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[identity profile] theafaye.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How many second chancers/returning players are left? That's another type that hasn't won.

You also missed out ethnicity. The winner's always been white.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh! There are 4 Second Chancers and 1 player who was brought back into the game with a special player.

I don't know everyone's ethnicity, but of the ones I do know, there are 4 non-white players I'm aware of (I keep forgetting people because that stat is not recorded in my spreadsheet... and I honestly just don't think about someone's ethnicity that much).
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