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Look! Over there!!! Isn't that [livejournal.com profile] ewok_626 and [livejournal.com profile] morning_stand finishing setting up the banquet hall??? Yes, indeed it is!

I guess they weren't trapped in a closet after all.

Who's that helping them? I dunno, but he kind of smells like he crawled out of the trash compactor.*G*

The Green Room doors are shut and locked for another season. But the banquet hall is open for one last hurrah!!

So tell your friends, tell your family, tell random strangers on the street!

It's time to celebrate another season of LJ Idol - with our usual Friending Frenzy!!

(For those not familiar with Friending Frenzies - although how you can escape them on LJ is beyond me! - if you are looking to meet some new people, just post telling a little about yourself and people can add you if they want. Think of it as a mini version of a introduction entry!*g*)

Go ahead and mingle and have some fun!!!
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I've verified the votes and am now ready to post the results.

As always, I am posting and then coming back and saying a few words - because wow, I have a few things to say about these truly amazing writers and this season in general.

Until then I'll post the official standings:

4th place [livejournal.com profile] alexpgp: The first thing that I want to point out is that this man is a *craftsman*. The man uses words to advance like he was playing you on a chess board. (And yes, I know everyone uses the chessboard analogy when it comes to Alex - but come on, it's there!!*g*) When you sit down to read his work he is going to move you right along the board and then sweep everything away from you when you least expect it.

For sheer command of language the man is simply amazing. It's been an honor just to watch him work over the last six months.

It's been said - but does need to be repeated, that he managed to do something that no other male contestant has EVER been able to do - he broke into the Top Four and into the FINALS!!! There's a part of me that would have been happy with an [livejournal.com profile] alexpgp win for that reason alone. But combine that with his final few entries and yeah, I think he would have been a fine choice. (Any of them would have been really, but I'm talking about him here!*g*)

In all candor there's only *one* thing that I think he could have done differently and made his work stronger - not adding the catchphrase "Cheers" at the end. Sometimes it was jarring - but you know what? That was entirely his call - it was a personal touch that I thought would mean he wouldn't last as long - and obviously people proved more than willing to read past it the same way that *I* did when I read his entries!

I've actually been amused the number of people inside of Idol - and out - who have asked me if I knew about his technical writing, or mentioned that they *were fans* of his professional work!! I think it's been really cool for folks to see a different side of someone clearly so gifted.

Thank you Alex for sharing your journey with us - and you know what? Cheers to you as well.

3rd place [livejournal.com profile] abbismom: Every season there is someone who "becomes the season" for me. It's usually some sort of odd quirk that doesn't make much sense to anyone *other* than me. . . but there was a time during this season when I was having to get up to work at 4:30 am. I tend to "dream Idol" during the season anyway, so people showing up isn't that big of a deal. When they become reoccuring characters though. . . every morning, just before my alarm would go off, the phone would ring and I would look at it - it would say "abbismom" with the picture of her icon... she would say "It's time to get up. You need to get up and go to work - so you can post a Green Room". (There were variations, but that was what she would usually say).
Obviously it was a dream - and one that woke me up for *months*. For some reason my subconcious picked her as the voice of the season to tell me to get my ass up out of bed and get going with my day!!

This is especially hilarious to me because I didn't *actually* speak to her until long after this. . . and I'm pretty sure that I've never mentioned it, until now!*G*

As for her writing:

The Ghosts of Wolf Creek, her novel, is available at: http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Wolf-Creek-Kimberly-Dillon/dp/1605639966/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238990189&sr=8-1

heh, OK, so that was just a plug for her book!*g*

Her work is just so darn engaging! Like opening up letters from an old friend . . . just sweeping you away. . . I once read a review of Jonathan Richman's music saying that it made you nostaglic for the time that never existed, but should have. I think that's about as clear as my headache is going to let me be this evening with talking about her work. It's that same sort of feeling.

2nd place [livejournal.com profile] darkprism: One of the darker of my mid-season dark horse projections to win. I just wasn't sure how fiction was going to end up going. You have people all around you pouring their hearts out - and you are telling a story. You want to survive - it had better be a damn good one and you had better tell it well!
Which is what ended up happening!

She is just an absolutely incredible story teller, dragging you down those dark paths you know that you don't want to go down - you know what is down there after all. But you can't help yourself, you are drawn down those paths into that mist and toward some sort of structure off in the distance. Because that is where the good stuff is going to be found. That is where darkprism lives, holding court over her demon minions.

As much as I think it would have been cool to have her win - I think her being in finals at all shows a shift in the voting readership dynamic that I think is quite healthy in being more inclusive. That said, this is still *LJ*... (yes, I'm trying to come up with a criticism and the only one that really comes to mind is that she's so strong and makes it look so easy that it might shift everyone into thinking they can do what she does...)

The sheer act though of making a believer out of *me* is well worth noting. You just fall into her words and get lost for a little while. Some of the places you visit are nicer than others. . .*G*

Thank you Allie for taking us down those roads and into the corners few dare tread - all while tying them back to the topic that was given! (Which couldn't have easy at times! *g*)

So where is it that we start standing in line for your novel????

and the Winner of Season Five - and your LJ Idol is

[livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain!!! - If you take a look over the past 6 months there is going to be one thing that will jump out at you right away when it comes to [livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain. A lot of people grew as writers and as people over the last 6 months. It's sort of the nature of things. Time passes and the more pressure you place on coal over a period of time more likely you are to produce something far more precious. In a lot of ways I think she still is very much a diamond in the rough. There are still some pointy edges here and there, but I think that just makes her stronger. I think it's fair to say that of the final four, no one grew more than Ashlee.

She could use a good spell check program - or a beta reader - now and then, but that tends to be a sign that what she's writing is coming out fully formed these days, and just needs some tweaking here and there.

But there was a raw talent there from the very start of things, it just took her time to believe in it and find that voice.

Fairly early on she emailed me some questions. I try my best to keep an open door policy, so that anyone who has questions can get them answered in a timely manner. Those questions sparked more questions - and more. . . she wanted to absorb as much as possible about the competition itself and everyone around her. She apparently went to everyone that would take the time to listen - and she learned from them.

Right there is a trait you don't see very often. Someone willing to take the time to acknowledge that they might not know everything, that there might be room for improvement, that they might not be the best already. . . especially that last one, that's a trait that *far* too few people seem to have these days.

One of the questions she ended up asking me - within the first couple weeks of the ongoing questions and answers - was "Can I friend you?" During the course of Idol I've been asked this - and my answer tends to be the same line. "That might not be the best idea for you. Are you SURE?" My friends don't tend to make it very far in Idol - and the ones who do never make it to the finish line.

I knew, even then, that she wanted to win and I didn't want to be the reason she didn't.

She said she was willing to accept the risks. She went right on from that point taking risk after risk. Sure, there were a few entries where she played it safer than she might have done otherwise - but there was a vulnerability to her work, a tangible aspect that ended up making her *real* to a lot of people, her writing voice resonating in people's heads and hearts.

A lot has been made of the idea of her "strategy" - she's even mentioned it - but when you take a step back and look at it, it's one that a lot of people over the seasons have failed to pull off. The idea of just being nice to people. This is over *six months*. Sure, you can pull off being nice for a couple months, especially if you don't talk to people - but you go *6*? Especially while developing interpersonal relationships with folks? The bullshit can only hold out just so long. The "strategy" falls apart and you stand revealed.

She remained the same basic person that she came in as - and I think that says a lot about who she *is* more than it does of a strategic victory. She wanted to be nice, because she wants to be nice to people in general! Again, that's a trait that's not around nearly often enough. Online or in RL.

I think she did a good job keeping her head while continuing to put out quality entries. She slipped now and again. But most people do. Ultimately though I think what ended up winning the day was that Ashlee was in every line of what she wrote. An example of how you can't separate someone from their words, because at the end of the day, especially in this world of LJ, one can not exist without the other.


And once again, thank you everyone for a fantastic season.

Dreslinski out.
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I hope you guys are having a good weekend!

I have a feeling that I'm going to be taking awhile looking over votes just to verify. Then again, the country music awards are apparently on, so no Amazing Race.

So verifying votes - and saying my goodbyes to these final four - that's what is going on with *my* day. OK - fine - and watching Hulu!*g* There's going to be some of that as well!*G*

Since this tends to get lost after the big announcement - I'll do it now - Thank you to everyone who has helped make this season so fantastic.

A special thank you to [livejournal.com profile] n_decisive and [livejournal.com profile] kithan my assistants this season.

Real life side tracked both of them - but the help that they were able to give was pretty much essential. (Even in the brief time [livejournal.com profile] n_decisive was able to serve she formatted the method that I used to keep track of everyone right up to the end! and of course [livejournal.com profile] kithan was able to step up and help when there was literally no way of me getting to a computer in time!!)

Even more helpful was what they taught me - that I could actually do a lot of the job if I needed to do it. Which is something that I wasn't sure about before - and certainly made life more difficult in the past. So, thank you to both of you.

Thank you to all 195 contestants, their families, friends - and people who discovered their work throughout the course of the season. Literally could not have done this without you.

There were some bumps and bruises along the way, but I will say this for it - in retrospect they were mostly self contained and ended up being dealt with enough that they were no longer issues within the competition itself.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this season ends!!!

I'll see you in a little bit!!!


So pass around the last of the virtual food and take a last look around - soon we will be moving into our Banquet Hall for the Award ceremonies...
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Good morning.

Our last regular Green Room of the season.

I'm really going to miss you guys.

*looks around* Well, OK, maybe not *you*.

Or you.

I could do without seeing *you* any time soon.

As I was saying, I'm really going to miss seeing somea few of you!!*g*


and oh yeah - there's a little poll going on: http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/252171.html

Maybe you might be interested in it.
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A few words from me:

Well here we are - The Final Four.

It's been a long road, but that's the point isn't it?

Reading over the final entries you get the sense of what each of them has been able to take from this journey. Without a journey, you don't *go anywhere*. Funny how that works isn't it?

The voices are so distinct, so rich, that doing anything other than reveling in who they are and allowing them stand proud would be a shame.

They've laid it out for you, their hopes and dreams - yelling, crying and everything in between- presenting their talents week after week, month after month.

Here we are - one more set of entries to read and one more vote. It's time for the voters, it's time for *you* to decide who is going to win this thing!!

When it's over - one of these contestants, these incredible people will be named as the winner of Season Five - and become The Next LJ Idol!

The poll will close Sunday April 5th at 8pm EDT. See you then!!

Good luck to all of you! Regardless of who has more votes when I close this thing I am honored to have met you this season. Each one of you would make an incredible winner.

Thank you.

Final Entries of [livejournal.com profile] abbismom Collected:

Step 1: Second Chance Entry: http://abbismom.livejournal.com/236684.html
Step 2: Personal Favorite Entry: http://abbismom.livejournal.com/209949.html
Step 3: Favorite Entry from another contestant: http://abbismom.livejournal.com/236910.html
Step 4: Who Should Be The Next LJ Idol: http://abbismom.livejournal.com/237223.html

Final Entries of [livejournal.com profile] alexpgp Collected:

Step 1: Second Chance Entry: http://alexpgp.livejournal.com/1353563.html
Step 2: Personal Favorite Entry: http://alexpgp.livejournal.com/1317914.html
Step 3: Favorite Entry from another contestant: http://alexpgp.livejournal.com/1353977.html
Step 4: Who Should Be The Next LJ Idol: http://alexpgp.livejournal.com/1354737.html

Final Entries of [livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain Collected:
Step 1: Second Chance Entry: http://boxsofrain.livejournal.com/422786.html
Step 2: Personal Favorite Entry: http://boxsofrain.livejournal.com/385338.html
Step 3: Favorite Entry from another contestant: http://boxsofrain.livejournal.com/423670.html
Step 4: Who Should Be The Next LJ Idol: http://boxsofrain.livejournal.com/424010.html

Final Entries of [livejournal.com profile] darkprism Collected:
Step 1: Second Chance Entry: http://darkprism.livejournal.com/241795.html
Step 2: Personal Favorite Entry: http://darkprism.livejournal.com/215184.html
Step 3: Favorite Entry from another contestant: http://darkprism.livejournal.com/242053.html
Step 4: Who Should Be The Next LJ Idol: http://darkprism.livejournal.com/243175.html

[Poll #1377150]


Note: It is a community only poll.
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This Green Room.


Tomorrow's Green Room.

Then one for the weekend . . .

and probably our annual wrap party

and then we wait until next season - although with LJ's across the board severe need of a user stimulus package right now who knows when that will be!!*G*

The time is ticking down. . .
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Good morning.

It's the last couple days of the Green Room, and Season 5 - and that's no April Fool!

So how are you doing today?
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
The first 3 parts of this week's topics have been met by all four contestants: http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/250217.html

Which means, as promised, we move on to Step 4:

Every season there is one topic that comes up. Some people love it. Some hate it. Usually for the same reasons.*g*

But it's tradition. It's how every season ends - by not only promoting yourself and making your case, but showing your insight into the people standing beside you, and making a case for them as well.

It's always been the final topic. Sometimes it comes at the Final 2. Sometimes it comes at the Final 3.

This season though things are different.

We started out this season divided between Veterans and Newbies - and have come to a point where the last four standing are newbies. Ah, but what a diverse group of newbies they are!!

There are almost as many "firsts" in this group of 4 are there are in your average couple weeks of Green Rooms!*g*

Each one is absolutely amazing and well deserving of their spot in the 4.

Unfortunately only one of them can win.

Which is what that topic that is traditionally at the end is about:

Why I Should Be the Next LJ Idol and Why (insert the names of the other three here) should be the next LJ Idol"

You can do it in one or multiple parts. However *you* feel most comfortable doing it.

That is the topic for Part 4.

As I said, things are a little different this season. Because, yes,


Congratulations to the FOUR FINALISTS!!!!!

One more entry. One more vote.

Then we have a winner.

Will it be YOU?????

Your entries need to be linked back to: http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/250217.html
(because I'm sure there will be comments in *this* thread!*g*) by Thursday April 2nd at 8 pm EDT.

Good luck - and have fun!!!
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"And that’s how I came your humble narrator
To be living so easy and free
Expect you think that I should be haunted
But it never really bothers me
Alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, alright" - Decemberists "The Rake's Song"

Considering the rest of the song - I figured that was appropriate with the elimination coming up!*G*


What has a song in your heart and a spring in your step today? You know, other than songs and Spring?*G*
(Unless of course that's it - in which case, feel free to share!)
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Our final four. . . with 3 parts of their challenge due tomorrow we have yet to see the following:

Step 2
[livejournal.com profile] alexpgp
[livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain

Step 3
[livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain

All 3 steps should be linked to http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/250217.html

by tomorrow, Tuesday March 31st at 7pm EDT
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Happy Birthday to [livejournal.com profile] blueashke!!


BIG OVER-THE-TOP INTERNET HUGS to the rest of you to show just how much I care.*G* (Because nothing says "caring" quite like writing the word *hugs*!!)


*pushes a little bit of food under the door for [livejournal.com profile] ewok_626*

*pushes a slightly larger portion of food under the next door over for [livejournal.com profile] morning_stand*, who is also locked in a closet!!

There's a lot of closets in this place!!


So, what are you guys up to today?
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Good morning afternoon and welcome to Week 27!!

I'm glad to see that most people seem to be liking the first 3 stages of this week's challenge!
Well, OK, they've called me evil and twisted. But in my head those are compliments!*g*

So what are you doing this weekend???


In going back over the last few seasons, at this point in the proceedings I tend to ask the same question. I don't recall asking it this time. But even if I did, it's one of those things you can never ask enough:

What have you done, and who have you met through this Season Five experience that has made it worthwhile to you???
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] abbismom
[livejournal.com profile] alexpgp
[livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain
[livejournal.com profile] darkprism

One thing is for sure - the Top of the alphabet is about to get another winner. (After going 3 seasons without one, this makes 2 seasons in a row!!)

You probably want to know what is going on for the FINAL FOUR. . .

We're going to start off simple. My idea of simple at any rate.

There are 3 steps in this first part. If any of you four have any questions - feel free to ask here or email me.

Everything needs to be linked back to this post as usual.

STEP 1: You never get a second chance to make a first impression right?
Now you do.
I'm quite sure that looking over 26 weeks worth of topics you have at least one entry that you go "I wish I had gone a different direction with that!" or even "I *could* have gone in a different direction."
Maybe you are 100% satisfied with them - in which case, find one of the previous topics and create something new.
This is your Second Chance entry.

Step 2: While you are thinking about your entries this season, and looking back over them - think about what your *FAVORITE* entry was that you have produced during this competition.

Find that entry and link it back here!

Step 3: And this is the part that might be easy - or might just be a little challenging because it's not standard at all. . . Link *your favorite entry* from SOMEONE ELSE during the course of the competition. I'm certain you've been reading each other - right?
It doesn't have to be one of the Final Four. It can be, but doesn't have to be.

After all, one of you is going to be the WINNER of Season Five: What do YOU think is "good"?

Again, it can be anyone who was part of Season 5.

Write your own entry ABOUT why you chose that entry.

When are you linking all of this back to this post by?

Tuesday March 31st at 7pm EDT.

And then. . . Step #4 will be posted.*G*

See you then.

Have fun!!!

(Reminder: this is a topic post. I will allow, unless it gets out of hand, the Final 4 to post here. Because ultimately people not seeing their posts, or me not seeing questions from them, among the other comments would really be their own fault.*g*)
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195 contestants started this adventure.

Now we are saying goodbye to the one who finished 5th.

I'll say more a little later.

But just to make it official:

5th place [livejournal.com profile] alycewilson: *moves the football* Turn about is fair play after all Lucy!*G*

This one is kind of weird for me because it's not like I didn't see it coming.

Not talking about the elimination. . . I'm talking about the doing *really* well.

That's one thing that all five of you had in common. That I saw something that I felt was going to translate well and gain readership.

Your entries were always just down right fun. Even the more serious ones.*g* You have a very easy and engaging conversational tone to your writing voice. It doesn't tend to "grab", more like it takes your hand and guides you along the path, side by side. Regardless of how unsure the path, you know that in the end you, as a reader and as someone along for the journey, know that it's going to end up somewhere you want to be.

Which is a marvelous thing to be able to achieve week after week.

The first contestant only vote only confirmed my suspicions - that baring something unforeseen, [livejournal.com profile] alycewilson was in this for the long haul!

Moral of the story: Believe in yourself and your abilities. Trust your voice. There isn't a time when you kicked yourself a little after the fact when I didn't think "Yep, she knows exactly how she could have made that piece even better". (Even when it was quite exceptional to begin with - but I think you know what I mean. Right?)

It's not even like I can say "Hope to see you around for the Home Game" - there's not much Home Game left!*g* That, and I have a pretty good feeling that you will be sticking around to see how this plays out!!!
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
*cracks the door to the closet open just a bit to let people pass [livejournal.com profile] ewok_626 a little bit of food before slamming it shut again*

Good morning.

Completely exhausted right now- but I wanted to threaten wok post a Green Room this morning!!

How are you guys doing today?


Remember there is a run off going on!! http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/249362.html
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
A few words from me:

Well, here we are. At the edge of the Final Four and we have a run-off.

I'm not even going to pretend that it's going to be an easy choice. It really isn't.

But it's one that does have to be made. Not really much to say other than whoever wins is going to be great- and whoever is eliminated is going to be great too!

The poll is open to community members only and will close Friday March 27th at 8pm EDT.

Good luck to you both.

[Poll #1372620]
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
Just letting everyone know that the new topic will be announced WHEN THE RUN OFF IS COMPLETED AND THE FINAL FOUR ARE ANNOUNCED.

It's slightly different than before - but then again this is a slightly different situation.

The 3 contestants who already know you are moving forward, well you can rest for a day or so in between rounds.

You've more than earned it.


FYI: [livejournal.com profile] ewok_626 is going to stay locked in the closet for now. . . and her usually virtual banquet is locked in a separate one. (Now I wonder which key people are going to try to find first!*g*)


So how are the rest of you doing?
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com

You folks sure do enjoy a race to the finish line!!!

We are eliminating two people this round. However with a tie in the second poll (and even after going over them the numbers are still the same) we will be having a run off.

Before that announcement though, we have the first elimination. . .

the last of the veterans as it turns out!

We started this off with newbies vs veterans and that fight has now officially ended, and not in the way that anyone predicted.

I'll say more later, but for now - this week we are saying goodbye to

The One.

The Only.

The [livejournal.com profile] superhappytime, who once again manages to do something never before done. He finished in *the exact same place* that he finished in Season 4!!! (with more people)

Congratulations on accomplishing that. It's been a pretty damn amazing run.

edit to add I'll be honest, this is one that I'm not sure where to even start. But I also know that I don't want to wait until I can reflect. This one has to be fresh. It's the SHT way. Off the cuff and coming at you from an angle you didn't expect.

I didn't expect him to get this far. I figured he would self destruct or get bored. That's what tends to happen to veterans the second time through. I should have never doubted. If there was anyone who was going to beat the odds, this was the guy.

I thought he was going a few weeks ago when he called people out for being *the problem*. Come on - who can get away with that??? He can apparently.

He does it with charm and wit and let's just say it outright, writing the fuck out of anything he gets his hands on.

From the showmances with every woman he's ever met - real and fictional - to the show-bromances with [livejournal.com profile] emo_snal and [livejournal.com profile] soopageek, the man used his words to talk birds out of the trees to get them to fly off to bring him back something to drink, some company for the evening and his ipod. *g*

Every time people thought they had him pegged, he turned the tables on them and showed them something a little bit different. The number of people who can do that is remarkably small. But he always made it look easy.

There were people completely loyal and people who didn't like him all that much - but SHT is one of those people you just can't ignore. You have an opinion about him - and this is mine: He is a hell of a writer and regardless of what he is writing about seems to get a genuine and heartfelt joy from his gift. Which, again, you don't see in a lot of people.

Over the last few weeks I've been trying to peg down what sort of winner each remaining contestant was going to be. . . and every time I got to SHT the verdict was the same, he was going to be a fun one. Certainly an unpredictable one! But fun regardless!

We won't know, this season at least. Hopefully we will all get the chance some other time.


Now to the second part of this - the run off between [livejournal.com profile] abbismom and [livejournal.com profile] alycewilson.

The two of you have until tomorrow Thursday March 26th at 6pm EDT to link your entry for the topic Making Fire to this post. Good luck to you both.
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
Hello there!

How have you guys been doing?


Happy Birthday to [livejournal.com profile] celticboy and [livejournal.com profile] tdarling!!


FYI: For those wondering - yes, [livejournal.com profile] ewok_626 has been locked in the Green Room closet. It's going to take a decent sized Green Room today to have her released!! Her fate is in *your* hands!!! bwahahahahhahaha!!!
[identity profile] clauderainsrm.livejournal.com
There are times when I just tack this announcement onto the bottom of the poll.

Not this time.

This time is special. It's the *final* immunity, and guarantees someone a spot in the FINAL FOUR.

Having been selected by peers as the Spirit of Season Five, [livejournal.com profile] boxsofrain was given the power to grant an immunity each round, until we reached four. The only catch being that she could not give it to the same person twice, and she could not award it to herself.

This last, final round, with her selection - she made some LJ IDOL HISTORY.

She has decided to give the final immunity to

[livejournal.com profile] alexpgp

What makes this so special? He is now the FIRST MALE CONTESTANT to make it to the final four.

Thank you Spirit for making the tough decisions for the last couple of weeks, and congratulations to [livejournal.com profile] alexpgp! Cheers!*g*

Who will join him in the final four? Well that's up to the voters: http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/248089.html


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